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How can you be a christian and still accept evolution? [Spirituality & Religion]

If evolution is real then there was no adam and eve.
If there was no adam and eve then there was no fall from grace.
If there was no fall from grace then there is no reason for the suffering experienced by people around the world.
There's no reason for jesus to exist at all since his purpose was to bring us salvation after the fall.

Discuss.
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Jake966 · 56-60, M
AMEN! Remember evolution is a theory
Dolimyte · 41-45, M
No its not
SW-User
@Dolimyte: It is a theory. But so is gravity. "Theory" doesn't mean "probably not true" like some people seem to think.
MetalGreymon · 36-40, M
So is the theory of gravitation. And particle theory. And the germ theory of disease.
Do you understand how a scientific, capital T, Theory differs from your theory that the bruins will win the stanley cup?
Jake966 · 56-60, M
Gravity is not a theory
Jake966 · 56-60, M
@Dolimyte: yes it is ; The Theory of Evolution no missing link , no fact
MetalGreymon · 36-40, M
@Jake966:

Wrong. There is the law of gravity which describes gravitational relationships and there is the theory of gravity which describes WHY gravitational relationships exist.
Dolimyte · 41-45, M
@Jake966: that missing link stuff is bull. There will always be gaps in the fosil record.
Jake966 · 56-60, M
So which apes are you related to ? LOL
Jake966 · 56-60, M
@UnparalleledMonster: correct ! So what is the law of evolution ?
MetalGreymon · 36-40, M
@Jake966:


...are you under the misapprehension that a law is somehow higher than a theory?
I hope not because this is incorrect. They describe different things.

The "law" would be the existence of a diversity of life on this planet. The theory that explains that is evolution.
Dolimyte · 41-45, M
What apes am I related to? All of them. Monkeys too. Anything with a spine actually
Jake966 · 56-60, M
I know that but the theory of evolution can't be proven to show how man came into existence
Dolimyte · 41-45, M
Evolution does explain how man came into existence. All life started as simple organisms that grew in complexity over countless generations. Where did the first life come from? No one knows. Maybe it was god, maybe not, but evolution happened.
Jake966 · 56-60, M
@Dolimyte: good for you , I sure am not
Jake966 · 56-60, M
@Dolimyte: so what will or has man evolved into ? I don't see any further evolutionary process taking place
MetalGreymon · 36-40, M
@Jake966:

What kind of question is that?
How could anyone say what man will evolve into? lol that's a pointless question.

[quote] I don't see any further evolutionary process taking place[/quote]

Actually you do. Fewer and fewer people are being born with wisdom teeth because they no longer serve a purpose.
As for man evolving into another genera...what do you expect to see? You understand that the evolutionary process takes a long time and what's more occurs in response to environmental pressure.
Jake966 · 56-60, M
Why has the process stopped ? Man has been man , according to the theory , for how many millions of years ? Not being born with wisdom teeth is not an answer
MetalGreymon · 36-40, M
@Jake966:

lol what makes you think it has stopped? Because you can't see it happening before your eyes?

And let's get some time lines straight:

Modern humans have existed for around 200,000 years. That's nothing.
Our ape-like ancestors as revealed through the fossil record have existed for about 7 million years. That's nothing.

To put it in perspective, dinosaurs existed for over 200 MILLION years an we can see through the fossil record great changes over that period. Notably the evolution of some dinosaurs to birds.
Jake966 · 56-60, M
They may be your ape-like ancestors but they certainly aren't mine ! LOL
MetalGreymon · 36-40, M
@Jake966:

Golly, i haven't heard that one before 🙄
So can i assume that this concludes the portion of the discussion where you even attempt to make a rational argument?
Jake966 · 56-60, M
LOL ! I just know I was created by a Devine Creator who loves me and I am made in His image not evolved from some ape
Dolimyte · 41-45, M
@Jake966: if man was created is his image, why do people all look so different? Shouldnt we all look alike. We dont because when primative man spread across the globe they evolved differently due to being in varied enviroments.
MetalGreymon · 36-40, M
@Jake966:

Of course you do, champ.
But it's time for you to go. The grown ups are talking.
Jake966 · 56-60, M
@UnparalleledMonster: Really ! Check your age to mine boy ! LOL So I guess it's time for you to go