Charity · 70-79
Ask them how is it that energy cannot be created cannot be destroyed but can change forms. A scientific analysis that was not known 6,000 years ago.
Ask them how God is identified like / the same as energy 4000 years ago when they should not have had knowledge that there was actually something in existence that could not be created or destroyed.
God our Father is identified also as being spirit. Spirit as we know it has no physical form form but can change forms.
Ask them how do the scientific process of panspermia which is living organisms came from outer space down to earth, thus began the circle / evolution of life. Indicating the life, living organisms is alive out there in space why not God? Suppose those living organisms are a part of him?
Suppose the universe is him, considering scientific knowledge is now saying everything in existence is made of energy that would make us a form of living energy God himself could be the original living energy who was not created cannot be destroyed but can change forms (look at everything around us.)
It's not an answer to the question because man does not have the answer to the question, it was not given to man to know.
Ask them how God is identified like / the same as energy 4000 years ago when they should not have had knowledge that there was actually something in existence that could not be created or destroyed.
God our Father is identified also as being spirit. Spirit as we know it has no physical form form but can change forms.
Ask them how do the scientific process of panspermia which is living organisms came from outer space down to earth, thus began the circle / evolution of life. Indicating the life, living organisms is alive out there in space why not God? Suppose those living organisms are a part of him?
Suppose the universe is him, considering scientific knowledge is now saying everything in existence is made of energy that would make us a form of living energy God himself could be the original living energy who was not created cannot be destroyed but can change forms (look at everything around us.)
It's not an answer to the question because man does not have the answer to the question, it was not given to man to know.
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newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Charity So your solution to abiogenesis is to move it to a different planet and then transport it to Earth?
How does abiogenesis and subsequent transport make abiogenesis any easier?
It might help if we define the term 'life'.
Life = any self-sustaining chemical system capable of Darwinian evolution.
Abiogenesis is not a scientific Theory... it's an event, and here are several propositions as to how that event occurred.
In none of those propositions does life 'spring up spontaneously'. it is ridiculous to suggest that a self-sustaining chemical system capable of Darwinian evolution just appeared... but such a system becomes all but inevitable when viewed in hindsight as a series of small and unrelated events.
Evolved back? That makes no sense. Evolution is not teleological... there are no goals - it's not trying to get somewhere. It moves neither forward nor backward. Evolution is change in the distribution and frequency of alleles within constantly changing environments... nothing more and nothing less... and its effects are stunning.
I am altered carbon with a 3.5 billion year evolutionary history that has genetically linked me to every organism that lives, or has ever lived.
I find that kinda cool! 😀
How does abiogenesis and subsequent transport make abiogenesis any easier?
It might help if we define the term 'life'.
Life = any self-sustaining chemical system capable of Darwinian evolution.
Abiogenesis is not a scientific Theory... it's an event, and here are several propositions as to how that event occurred.
In none of those propositions does life 'spring up spontaneously'. it is ridiculous to suggest that a self-sustaining chemical system capable of Darwinian evolution just appeared... but such a system becomes all but inevitable when viewed in hindsight as a series of small and unrelated events.
Evolved back? That makes no sense. Evolution is not teleological... there are no goals - it's not trying to get somewhere. It moves neither forward nor backward. Evolution is change in the distribution and frequency of alleles within constantly changing environments... nothing more and nothing less... and its effects are stunning.
I am altered carbon with a 3.5 billion year evolutionary history that has genetically linked me to every organism that lives, or has ever lived.
I find that kinda cool! 😀
Charity · 70-79
@newjaninev2
I don't even know where you come from with it's my solution to go from one planet to the other I didn't mention any planets.
I said panspermia is the theory that life came from space through rain or asteroid.
And it's not my theory, scientists are the ones who theorize life came From outer space not me and that life began the process of evolution. Just as the theory of abiogenesis is.
The whale, which is a mammal, all mammals / amphibians / reptiles / evolved from fish.
Makes no sense / naturally to you it wouldn't / the pakicetus which it is said the whale evolve from was a mammal / mammals evolved from fish / so the unknown ancestor of the pakicetus evolved from something that once was a fish that lived in water...... Thus from water to land - back to water - meaning it evolved from water to land then evolved from Land *back* to water.
10 Steps of Animal Evolution, From Fish to Primates https://share.google/LlVEnOaxwWOuLgAi9
How fish evolved to walk – and in one case, turned into humans - Connecting Research https://share.google/YRjIqA5LdwDM2Gj3r
Abiogenesis is the most accepted *scientific theory* of *the event* that scientists in various areas of science feel is the origin of life on Earth. Encyclopedia uses the word idea instead of theory.
Abiogenesis | Definition & Theory | Britannica https://share.google/DqgrmBt7qGarGlGMh
If you feel life sprung up from none life is ridiculous then you need to learn what the event as you call it of abiogenesis is.
Encyclopedia Britannica defines it as well as Webster. That is of course if you accept their definition if you don't, so be it that's your business.
ABIOGENESIS Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster https://share.google/UJa7n8ZvPbptUsOvs
Genetically linked indeed. Sounds like Adam and Eve to me. Eve in scripture is called the mother of all mankind, which makes all mankind genetically linked. And science has proven it so we all are genetically linked.
And not only to each other but to the Earth also.
I don't even know where you come from with it's my solution to go from one planet to the other I didn't mention any planets.
I said panspermia is the theory that life came from space through rain or asteroid.
And it's not my theory, scientists are the ones who theorize life came From outer space not me and that life began the process of evolution. Just as the theory of abiogenesis is.
The whale, which is a mammal, all mammals / amphibians / reptiles / evolved from fish.
Makes no sense / naturally to you it wouldn't / the pakicetus which it is said the whale evolve from was a mammal / mammals evolved from fish / so the unknown ancestor of the pakicetus evolved from something that once was a fish that lived in water...... Thus from water to land - back to water - meaning it evolved from water to land then evolved from Land *back* to water.
10 Steps of Animal Evolution, From Fish to Primates https://share.google/LlVEnOaxwWOuLgAi9
How fish evolved to walk – and in one case, turned into humans - Connecting Research https://share.google/YRjIqA5LdwDM2Gj3r
Abiogenesis is the most accepted *scientific theory* of *the event* that scientists in various areas of science feel is the origin of life on Earth. Encyclopedia uses the word idea instead of theory.
Abiogenesis | Definition & Theory | Britannica https://share.google/DqgrmBt7qGarGlGMh
If you feel life sprung up from none life is ridiculous then you need to learn what the event as you call it of abiogenesis is.
Encyclopedia Britannica defines it as well as Webster. That is of course if you accept their definition if you don't, so be it that's your business.
ABIOGENESIS Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster https://share.google/UJa7n8ZvPbptUsOvs
Genetically linked indeed. Sounds like Adam and Eve to me. Eve in scripture is called the mother of all mankind, which makes all mankind genetically linked. And science has proven it so we all are genetically linked.
And not only to each other but to the Earth also.
Charity · 70-79
@newjaninev2
Chemicals scientists are continually trying to create life from scratch using chemicals, (the basic chemicals that life now substains) and fail.
And the chemicals Darwin is speaking of are the chemicals that all life forms on Earth have, which are of the chemicals of the earth as the Bible says dust of the Earth. And none of those chemicals that the body consist of has life within itself.
Again science as failed to produce life from none life / chemicals.
Scientists decided where the building block of life RNA ORIGINATED from - none life if they support abiogenesis or on a asteroid meteorite that came from space down to earth if they support panspermia. But you won't find that report anymore.
Chemicals scientists are continually trying to create life from scratch using chemicals, (the basic chemicals that life now substains) and fail.
And the chemicals Darwin is speaking of are the chemicals that all life forms on Earth have, which are of the chemicals of the earth as the Bible says dust of the Earth. And none of those chemicals that the body consist of has life within itself.
Again science as failed to produce life from none life / chemicals.
Scientists decided where the building block of life RNA ORIGINATED from - none life if they support abiogenesis or on a asteroid meteorite that came from space down to earth if they support panspermia. But you won't find that report anymore.
DocSavage · M
I have a related question. Why did he wait? And what is the point of time ?
He lives outside time and space, he’s immortal, he sees past present, and future all at once, controls reality.
He can do anything and everything. So what’s the point ? Nothing ,and no one is truly independent of his will,
The only way it works, is creation creation and god are two separate of each other, with god,interfering with human events.
He lives outside time and space, he’s immortal, he sees past present, and future all at once, controls reality.
He can do anything and everything. So what’s the point ? Nothing ,and no one is truly independent of his will,
The only way it works, is creation creation and god are two separate of each other, with god,interfering with human events.
OriginalDumbMan · 36-40
@DocSavage you will understand when god will show you, that there is god. But complete god you can’t understand. Your purpose is only to attain god.
DocSavage · M
Bollocks ! god’s behavior makes no sense. If he’s controlling everything there should some point to it all.
Instead of calling it mysterious ways. Admit you don’t know, probably never will, looking for an answer, is still a noble endeavor.
Instead of calling it mysterious ways. Admit you don’t know, probably never will, looking for an answer, is still a noble endeavor.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@DocSavage
The biblical God can't even control the angels in heaven or defeat chariots on Earth.
He lives outside time and space, he’s immortal, he sees past present, and future all at once, controls reality.
He can do anything and everything. So what’s the point ? Nothing ,and no one is truly independent of his will,
He can do anything and everything. So what’s the point ? Nothing ,and no one is truly independent of his will,
The biblical God can't even control the angels in heaven or defeat chariots on Earth.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
NativePortlander1970 · 51-55
@newjaninev2 A very good point
OriginalDumbMan · 36-40
@newjaninev2 there are billions of universes. Universes are getting created and destroyed. This will be destroyed too.
DocSavage · M
I did, duh !
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@GodSpeed63 = Humans have worshipped over 33,000,000 dieties. Why do you believe in the Jewish deity?
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GodSpeed63 · 70-79, M
@Diotrephes
You still haven't proven that it's a fairy tale. When you do, let me know.
It would be wonderful if you would read the fairytale that you claim to believe in.
You still haven't proven that it's a fairy tale. When you do, let me know.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@GodSpeed63
You can easily prove it to yourself right now. You claim to have faith but not one person in the last 2,000 years has ever shown that he has enough faith to do what Jesus said a person who has faith the size of a mustard seed can do.
Matthew 17:20 (CEB) = “Because you have little faith,” he said. “I assure you that if you have faith the size of a mustard seed, you could say to this mountain, ‘Go from here to there,’ and it will go. There will be nothing that you can’t do.”
Luke 17:6 (CEB) = "The Lord replied, “If you had faith the size of a mustard seed, you could say to this mulberry tree, ‘Be uprooted and planted in the sea,’ and it would obey you."
Start with a small bush. Moving a big mountain will cause a lot of damage.
Be sure to let us know your results.
Can you imagine the chaos of hundreds of millions of people moving stuff around with their minds all at once? But you can be the first.
Remember what Paul said about zombies?
1 Corinthians 15:12-19 (CEB) = "12 So if the message that is preached says that Christ has been raised from the dead, then how can some of you say, “There’s no resurrection of the dead”? 13 If there’s no resurrection of the dead, then Christ hasn’t been raised either. 14 If Christ hasn’t been raised, then our preaching is useless and your faith is useless. 15 We are found to be false witnesses about God, because we testified against God that he raised Christ, when he didn’t raise him if it’s the case that the dead aren’t raised. 16 If the dead aren’t raised, then Christ hasn’t been raised either. 17 If Christ hasn’t been raised, then your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins, 18 and what’s more, those who have died in Christ are gone forever. 19 If we have a hope in Christ only in this life, then we deserve to be pitied more than anyone else."
I'm sure you have seen some zombie movies but have you ever met a real zombie? If you have, you should have written a book about your experience.
You still haven't proven that it's a fairy tale. When you do, let me know.
You can easily prove it to yourself right now. You claim to have faith but not one person in the last 2,000 years has ever shown that he has enough faith to do what Jesus said a person who has faith the size of a mustard seed can do.
Matthew 17:20 (CEB) = “Because you have little faith,” he said. “I assure you that if you have faith the size of a mustard seed, you could say to this mountain, ‘Go from here to there,’ and it will go. There will be nothing that you can’t do.”
Luke 17:6 (CEB) = "The Lord replied, “If you had faith the size of a mustard seed, you could say to this mulberry tree, ‘Be uprooted and planted in the sea,’ and it would obey you."
Start with a small bush. Moving a big mountain will cause a lot of damage.
Be sure to let us know your results.
Can you imagine the chaos of hundreds of millions of people moving stuff around with their minds all at once? But you can be the first.
Remember what Paul said about zombies?
1 Corinthians 15:12-19 (CEB) = "12 So if the message that is preached says that Christ has been raised from the dead, then how can some of you say, “There’s no resurrection of the dead”? 13 If there’s no resurrection of the dead, then Christ hasn’t been raised either. 14 If Christ hasn’t been raised, then our preaching is useless and your faith is useless. 15 We are found to be false witnesses about God, because we testified against God that he raised Christ, when he didn’t raise him if it’s the case that the dead aren’t raised. 16 If the dead aren’t raised, then Christ hasn’t been raised either. 17 If Christ hasn’t been raised, then your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins, 18 and what’s more, those who have died in Christ are gone forever. 19 If we have a hope in Christ only in this life, then we deserve to be pitied more than anyone else."
I'm sure you have seen some zombie movies but have you ever met a real zombie? If you have, you should have written a book about your experience.
NativePortlander1970 · 51-55
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Ferise1 · 46-50, M
It’s just childish wishful thinking