Charity · 61-69
Ask them how is it that energy cannot be created cannot be destroyed but can change forms. A scientific analysis that was not known 6,000 years ago.
Ask them how God is identified like / the same as energy 4000 years ago when they should not have had knowledge that there was actually something in existence that could not be created or destroyed.
God our Father is identified also as being spirit. Spirit as we know it has no physical form form but can change forms.
Ask them how do the scientific process of panspermia which is living organisms came from outer space down to earth, thus began the circle / evolution of life. Indicating the life, living organisms is alive out there in space why not God? Suppose those living organisms are a part of him?
Suppose the universe is him, considering scientific knowledge is now saying everything in existence is made of energy that would make us a form of living energy God himself could be the original living energy who was not created cannot be destroyed but can change forms (look at everything around us.)
It's not an answer to the question because man does not have the answer to the question, it was not given to man to know.
Ask them how God is identified like / the same as energy 4000 years ago when they should not have had knowledge that there was actually something in existence that could not be created or destroyed.
God our Father is identified also as being spirit. Spirit as we know it has no physical form form but can change forms.
Ask them how do the scientific process of panspermia which is living organisms came from outer space down to earth, thus began the circle / evolution of life. Indicating the life, living organisms is alive out there in space why not God? Suppose those living organisms are a part of him?
Suppose the universe is him, considering scientific knowledge is now saying everything in existence is made of energy that would make us a form of living energy God himself could be the original living energy who was not created cannot be destroyed but can change forms (look at everything around us.)
It's not an answer to the question because man does not have the answer to the question, it was not given to man to know.
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newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Charity
You didn't
The word 'atheist' literally means 'without gods'. It doesn't mean 'without belief'. It means 'without gods'... from the Greek word atheos, which combines 'a-' (without) and 'theos' (god).
What beliefs?
1. there's no proof that gods exist (otherwise we'd all be theists)
2. there's no proof that gods don't exist (they might be lurking around a mountain-top somewhere)
3. there's no compelling necessity to even postulate the existence of gods, and postulating their existence explains nothing... it doesn't even explain itself.
4. therefore I have no gods (I'm an agnostic atheist)
Please identify the beliefs in that
maybe I didn't
You didn't
The word 'atheist' literally means 'without gods'. It doesn't mean 'without belief'. It means 'without gods'... from the Greek word atheos, which combines 'a-' (without) and 'theos' (god).
the beliefs of an atheist
What beliefs?
1. there's no proof that gods exist (otherwise we'd all be theists)
2. there's no proof that gods don't exist (they might be lurking around a mountain-top somewhere)
3. there's no compelling necessity to even postulate the existence of gods, and postulating their existence explains nothing... it doesn't even explain itself.
4. therefore I have no gods (I'm an agnostic atheist)
Please identify the beliefs in that
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Charity “In fact, 'atheism' is a term that should not even exist. No one ever needs to identify himself as a 'non-astrologer' or a 'non-alchemist'. We do not have words for people who doubt that Elvis is still alive or that aliens have traversed the galaxy only to molest ranchers and their cattle. Atheism is nothing more than the noises reasonable people make in the presence of unjustified religious beliefs.”
Sam Harris
Sam Harris
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DocSavage · M
I have a related question. Why did he wait? And what is the point of time ?
He lives outside time and space, he’s immortal, he sees past present, and future all at once, controls reality.
He can do anything and everything. So what’s the point ? Nothing ,and no one is truly independent of his will,
The only way it works, is creation creation and god are two separate of each other, with god,interfering with human events.
He lives outside time and space, he’s immortal, he sees past present, and future all at once, controls reality.
He can do anything and everything. So what’s the point ? Nothing ,and no one is truly independent of his will,
The only way it works, is creation creation and god are two separate of each other, with god,interfering with human events.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@DocSavage
Yet can exist within spacetime in order to influence events therein... how convenient
lives outside time and space
Yet can exist within spacetime in order to influence events therein... how convenient
OriginalDumbMan · 36-40
@DocSavage you will understand when god will show you, that there is god. But complete god you can’t understand. Your purpose is only to attain god.
DocSavage · M
Bollocks ! god’s behavior makes no sense. If he’s controlling everything there should some point to it all.
Instead of calling it mysterious ways. Admit you don’t know, probably never will, looking for an answer, is still a noble endeavor.
Instead of calling it mysterious ways. Admit you don’t know, probably never will, looking for an answer, is still a noble endeavor.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
If it's in any way valid to claim that your particular magical entity wasn't created, that it was somehow always there, then it's equally valid to claim that the universe wasn't created, that it was somehow always there.
NativePortlander1970 · 51-55
@newjaninev2 A very good point
DocSavage · M
I did, duh !
NativePortlander1970 · 51-55
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Ferise1 · 46-50, M
It’s just childish wishful thinking








