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Which Will You Take, man's word or God's Word?

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Science still points to God for He has established it before the foundations of the earth were formed.
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DocSavage · M
Man’s word is clearly the only reliable choice. If it is wrong or taken out of context either deliberately or due to misinformation, it can be corrected.
And the cold, hard truth will out.
If no one has the nerve to question god’s word, than all knowledge, learning, and wonder stop.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@DocSavage
Man’s word is clearly the only reliable choice. If it is wrong or taken out of context either deliberately or due to misinformation, it can be corrected.

How can man's word be more reliable if it has to be corrected? Who's going to correct it? You're not making any sense.

And the cold, hard truth will out.

Truth according to whom?

If no one has the nerve to question God’s word, than all knowledge, learning, and wonder stop.

According to whom? Even I question God's Word but I still believe that it's the only solid Truth we have in this fallen world of ours.
DocSavage · M
@GodSpeed63
Truth according to whom
Not “whom” “what” Facts speak for themselves, and they can be demonstrated, with consistent, repeatable results.unlike god’s word, which is subject to interpretation based on unreliable and varied faith.
How can man's word be more reliable if it has to be corrected? Who's going to correct it? You're not making any sense
Man is mortal, interpretation is limited by time, and by physical means.however give time, limitations can be overcome, more data can be collected. Imagine what your goat header might have learned if they had access to an electron microscope. Or a nuclear accelerator. Even you must admit technology has expanded our knowledge and lifespans beyond anything primitive man could dream
If you question god’s word , even in part, then you must have some doubts to the details, something doesn’t quite add up. Which means god isn’t quite 100 % . Someone found a way that works better. God never updated his work.
Or maybe his scribes are not perfect.you won’t know, unless you go and check it out. That’s why we have science. That’s the point. You figure god left some evidence of his talent behind. Evolution did. Even Ken Ham has acknowledged that.
God’s word stopped, and can’t go beyond the bible. It’s outdated . Man’s word, has the current data, and can put it to use in ways god can’t.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@DocSavage
Not “whom” “what” Facts speak for themselves, and they can be demonstrated, with consistent, repeatable results.unlike god’s word, which is subject to interpretation based on unreliable and varied faith.

I ask again, according to whom? Facts can't can't speak for themselves, only people can. Since man is finite, he is unable to determine the truth that the facts show him. He cannot discern his left hand from his right.
DocSavage · M
@GodSpeed63
I ask again, according to whom? Fac
And I say again, not “whom” the evidence demonstrated will tell the story. Logically if it comes from god, or man, the truth will be the same.
That’s why we have science. The more data, the better , when did you get it from god himself ?
DocSavage · M
@GodSpeed63
You realize, that if science and god are compatible. God intended evolution to happen. And this can be proven.
He created the firmament, to separate the land from the waters on the start of creation, why ? God could create life to fit any environment. There is no practical reason to change the nature, simply make life aquatic.
Dry land, promotes the need to adapt to another environment, Evolving qualities to survive in completely different conditions.
Who would know the difference.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@DocSavage
God intended evolution to happen.

Where is that written?
DocSavage · M
@GodSpeed63
Where is that written?
Probably in all the text books you call malarky. The Devil is in the details .
Stands to reason, the truth would be in the upgraded books. Instead of those written by the primitive goat herders.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@DocSavage
Probably in all the text books you call malarky.

Then my advice to you is don't read them. They're written by those who can't discern their left hand from their right.
DocSavage · M
@GodSpeed63
Excuse me, but didn’t you say that science points towards god ?
Make up your mind. Is science accurate or not ? Evidence supports evolution. If science supports god, then you acknowledge that the religion also supports evolution. Showing once again the contrary nature of god’s word.
DocSavage · M
@GodSpeed63
According to the story of the ark, Noah took only two “ kinds” of each animal, there are several thousand breed species now. Not counting what has the way of the Dodo. Even Kenny couldn’t handle that on his boat. So evolution had to happen, and that would be why we have so much evidence for it.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@DocSavage
Excuse me, but didn’t you say that science points towards god ?

What do you think? Don't you know that there are those, like yourself, who think that science points away from God?

According to the story of the ark, Noah took only two “ kinds” of each animal, there are several thousand breed species now. Not counting what has the way of the Dodo. Even Kenny couldn’t handle that on his boat. So evolution had to happen, and that would be why we have so much evidence for it.

You are sadly mistaken, Ken Ham's ark is the same size as Noah's. Different breeds of animals doesn't mean that evolution happened. the evidence for evolution is not there.
DocSavage · M
@GodSpeed63
Different breeds of animals doesn't mean that evolution happened. the evidence for evolution is not there
Where are you getting your info from ? Different breeds definitely means evolution happened, otherwise all species would be able to breed with one another, and there wouldn’t be different species. That is the purpose. Diversity!
Seeing is believing. Ring species . Cannot lie.
Furthermore, if the Ark ( including Kenny’s) had all those animals inside. They would suffocate within a day. As there is only one window for ventilation . Not to mention food and water preservation. This is a matter of physics not faith . There is simply no room. Kenny’s proved that.
Evolution is the only way. Feel free to quote the bible, and explain how god made it work. But $10 says you can’t do it without magic. Which means science doesn’t point to god. And god had to have used evolution, which means science god it right, and you didn’t.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@DocSavage
Where are you getting your info from ?

The Spirit of Truth which is more reliable than man's word.
DocSavage · M
@GodSpeed63
Still didn’t answer my earlier question about what happened to the firmament.
Did you ?
Don’t you find it strange that we have more evidence of evolution, both in nature and the lab, which you claim doesn’t exist, and absolutely no evidence of an enormous crystal dome which you say does ?
Looks to the rest of truth, is being very dishonest.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@DocSavage
Don’t you find it strange that we have more evidence of evolution,

No. You don't have any evidence for evolution.
DocSavage · M
@GodSpeed63
You keep saying that there is.
Science points to god, then god is pointing to evolution. You can’t have it both ways. There are no science books that in any way explain a magical way of the diversity of life. Chromosome two is not in the bible, plain and simple.
DocSavage · M
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Ring species are living examples of evolution in action. You don’t know what they are, that’s your problem. It’s still evidence to those of us that know it.
Care to show something of the firmament. ?
DocSavage · M
@GodSpeed63
No. You don't have any evidence for evolution

Alway be more than what you have for god
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@DocSavage
Ring species are living examples of evolution in action.

According to whom?
DocSavage · M
@GodSpeed63
The science you say tells us god is alive.
They still agree on ring species. Perhaps you should actually read what they say. Even Kenny can’t get around them.
DocSavage · M
@DocSavage
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GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@DocSavage
Atheist don’t need to prove anything,

Science still points to God, that is the Truth until proven otherwise.
DocSavage · M
@GodSpeed63
It’s already been proven chuckle head.
Nothing in any field of science acknowledges any aspect of god. He goes against every single rule of existence. God is completely the opposite of reality to the point that there is no way to define him in any way compatible with physical reality
DocSavage · M
@GodSpeed63
Science still points to God, that is the Truth until proven otherwise.
No it doesn’t. It says god’s not dead , because he never existed in the first place. You lie again