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THE FIRMAMENT & CLUELESS PASTORS PART 3...

I just want you to know that I got all the information and photos from Pastor Dean Odle's video and he is the only one that I watch now. If you like this post; the video is even better, so here is the link:

https://rumble.com/v2844zg-the-firmament-and-clueless-pastors.html

Now before we get started, I must make this point perfectly clear; you have been programmed since the 1920's by the media and NASA to be immediately turned off as soon as you see the words " flat earth." This is by design because the true
nature and structure and shape of our earth is true Biblical Cosmology ( The Way That God Created It ).

Satan is the god of this world and he has many followers in high places misleading the masses. He is also the Prince and Power of the Air which means he controls all the media
outlets ( tv, radio, newspapers, magazines, the internet, etc...). And his number one mission is to discredit and mock The Biblical Cosmology so you will not accept the true nature of creation and realize the truth of God's word and therefore keep you away from Jesus and accepting Him as your personal savior and so Satan can lead as many souls as possible straight to hell where he is going.

NASA was founded by NAZI Occultists who were and are Satanists. They do not have even one photo of earth; they are all CGIs ( Computer Graphic Images ) and they are photo shopped and they are all lies. Have you ever noticed when looking at their images of earth that there are never any stars or satellites in the picture? And then there is in one image of earth showing North America taking up almost the whole globe and another one showing a very small North American continent. Which is it? They have lied so much that they can't even keep track of their images and that is because the dark ones are fallible and not perfect like God is.

And it is no coincidence that they named their moon missions Apollo because that is another name of Satan ( the destroyer ). Once again putting it in your face and laughing at you.
Rev 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit ( hell ), whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

Every image on tv, movies and news broadcasts always show you a globe in the background; this is programming and MIND CONTROL! But secretly they have to tell you the truth in little ways; go into a store and pick up a globe that you would put on your desk and read what it says on the bottom of the globe and you will read " not for educational purposes ", yet they have these in every classroom starting with very young children.
So the indoctrination is severe and effective!

Satan's followers was foretold 3000 years ago in a Psalm of David:

Psa 2:1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

The heathen are the masses that are believing the lies ( a vain thing ) that the media is telling them.

Psa 2:2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,

The kings and rulers are the presidents, prime ministers and the elites who are against the LORD and His anointed ( Jesus ) because they are Satanists.

Psa 2:3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.

The bands and cords are the strict morals, codes, and rules ( commandments ) that God expects us to adhere to and they want to break away from them because they want to live in filthy sin.

I think I have said enough; lets get on with it.


Read this verse.

Now remember He said He made the skies firm; it's a firmament; it's solid; it has windows and doors to let in water; it supports water; water's heavy; 8 lbs a gallon. Now some people will say well that's just Job's friend talking; he didn't know what he was talking about, but here's the thing, they said the same thing about Moses; he didn't know what he was talking about.


Spread out; guess what? It's the word raqa, the verb, meaning what? To beat, stamp, beat out, spread out, stretch, to stamp, beat out, and then he tells you right here in the Strong's definition, to pound the earth, by analogy to expand by hammering, to overlay with thin sheets of metal, to make broad, to spread abroad, to spread forth, to spread over, to spread out,
to spread into plates.

This is the picture, now again, if we can't let words be defined as they really are, then we have a problem, we will never know the truth.


This says basically the same thing.


This is an end time prophesy and it's in the context of end time prophesy because in verse 8 it says that God will wipe away all tears; this is the same verse used in the book of Revelation.

Read verse 6.

And verse 6 refers to the marriage supper at Jesus' second coming.

Now read verses 7-8.

Now this is clearly end times He's saying here now ( pay attention ), He's going to remove or destroy the covering that's cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations.
So let's look up these words real quick.


Read these definitions.

Didn't we read something about molten glass? There's metal and then there's glass like lead glass or lead crystal, and he's talking about molten, and even here it says the word maccekah
and you can read the bottom left part of the screen. Again, the picture we get of this vail that's over all the nations is what? Molten metal; SOLID!


Read this short piece.

What is fusion? Something you do with what? Metal. To cover or protect; a covering; let's go back to our verse.


Verse 7 is referring to the firmament that's over all the earth; all the people; all the nations and here...


...in Revelation 6, it's the 6th seal at the second coming of Jesus and here's what it says; read verses 12-13.
Why are the stars going to fall? I believe the stars are set inside
the solid firmament; and when the firmament begins to be broken up; rolled back; destroyed like he said; God's going to
open it up; destroy it; let it fall to the earth; in fact it's going to be that the firmament that actually destroys all the cities of the nations. That's what those hailstones are that are going to rain down and destroy everything.

So finish reading verse 13.

The last time I checked, figs were attached to fig trees.

Read the rest of the verses 14-17.

So what's happening? God's removing the vail that's over all the nations; it's going to crumble and fall; and when it does...


...if you look at the word depart; the word depart means, He's going to separate it; He's going to sever it; He's going to part it asunder; He's going to rend it; that means to rip it open. God Himself is going to rip open the firmament and it going to begin to crumble and fall upon the cities of the nations and then when that vail is removed from over all the nations and all the people
is when they're going to see Him; they're going to see the throne of God; they're going to see the Lord Jesus sitting on the throne.

He's going to destroy the vail; He's going to destroy this molten
metal cast firmament, the solid firmament and folks, how do you do that? How do you roll back a scroll if it's just some kind of an atmosphere? Where is He coming from? Where is He going to be sitting that people are going to see; is His throne just outside of our atmosphere and satellites have failed to pick it up?

Nothing in your Bible from Genesis to Revelation teaches the nonsense that you were taught in government public schools
and by space programs operated by Freemasons and Nazi's;
Occultists; Satanic people have brought you this WHOLE belief system about space and galaxies far far away; there's nothing far far away folks, God's not even far far away; He said it in the book of Acts. He is not far away from anyone of us; He says He sits there and beholds us like grasshoppers. He watches us from His seat on the firmament.


Josephus, the most respected 1st and early 2nd century Jewish historian; the one who testified about Jesus. It's well known that
he was probably, more than likely a Pharisee, but definitely friends with the Pharisees, so he had a good understanding of both the political and the religious scene at that time. And this is history.

So go ahead and read this information.

So here it is real clear just from Josephus; this was the understanding of the ancient Israelites; this is the understanding at the time of Jesus. Do you understand how important this record of history from Josephus is; he tells you, this is what we Jews believe. Why did they believe it? It's in the Bible; it's in Genesis; it's in Isaiah; right? So when people say there's no history of this, it's just dishonest; it's a lie! Gets me fired up.


On top of that, people should know, in the septuagint version
between 285 and 248 BC. King Ptolemy of Egypt ordered
about 70 Jewish scholars to put together for him from the Hebrew Scriptures, a translation into Greek and to put them into the library of Alexandria. And so when those Jewish scholars translated the word firmament ( raqiya ). into Greek,
in 250 BC, they chose the word stereoma.

So go ahead and read from the word stereoma.

Does any of what you just read sound like a thin vapor? And since when if our atmosphere is a thin vapor of air, oxygen, hydrogen, nitrogen; how do you put that kind of atmosphere up against an empty vacuum of space? It doesn't make any sense; gas has pressure and it has to have a container or it would be sucked right into the vacuum of space because nature abhors a vacuum. This is simply basic common sense.


We've been to Genesis; we've gone to Isaiah; we've defined the word in multiple lexicons; we've looked at historical references from what the ancient Hebrews believed and here we have another passage talking about the firmament and it tells you the same thing you heard from Josephus and some of these others, that it is solid.

So go ahead and read this.

Focus on verse 22.

So he says the living creatures were where? They were on the earth and they were being lifted up from the earth and as they were being lifted up from the earth, he saw what was over their heads and called it what? The firmament; and if you look up in the King James the word colour, it means it has the appearance
of, the outward appearance of the TERRIBLE CRYSTAL, that is stretched forth over their heads above.

Now you get the same thing in Revelation 4.


In Revelation 4, John sees the throne, and what does he see?

Read it and find out.

Pay attention to verse 6. And before the throne there was a sea of GLASS like unto CRYSTAL: OH! And Ezekiel said God was
sitting upon the firmament which is like molten GLASS! and John sees the sea of GLASS too!


Here's a little glory for ya.


Read the first part of the first verse here in blue.

Now the throne itself: the molten glass; the throne has the appearance of sapphire; well, what does sapphire look like?
Blue; wait a minute; isn't the sky blue?

Now read Exodus 24:9-10.

So Moses and the rest actually saw God. And there was under His feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone...so where God's sitting and where His feet are; under his feet there is this pavement of sapphire stone. Where did Ezekiel say His throne was sitting? On the firmament; that was like what? Crystal glass. God said heaven is my throne and earth is my footstool
because really the second heaven or the firmament is connected to the earth; it is part of the earth system.


So here's the color of sapphire stone.

May YHWH, Christ
and the Holy Spirit
Bless you,
Scott
calicuz · 56-60, M
My faith in the Abrahamic God does not rest on whether the Earth is flat or round. My concern is the innocent children being harmed, innocent women and children being murdered in the name of war, and America being led into a one world government.
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
@calicuz

Yes, those are very good points and in other video sermons Pastor Dean addresses them as well, especially the end times and a one world government, but our Creator speaks a lot about His creation in the Scriptures and that's why it is important to know the truth of His creation and how in these end times the whole world has been deceived by Satan.
calicuz · 56-60, M
@ArcAngel

Yes, by all the anger and violence that surrounds us, the age if deception is over and the age of awakening has begun.
KJVRedPill · 31-35, M
Please answer my recent post:

https://similarworlds.com/astronomy/5048552-Question-for-fellow-Christians-who-believe-in-a-flat-earth
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
@KJVRedPill

The Bible says that Hell is in the HEART of the earth (Matthew 12:40). It is easy to see the heart of a globe, but not a flat plane.

Just because the earth is a flat plane doesn't mean it's as thin as a piece of paper, the earth is many miles deep.

In our three dimensional world, a flat plane would have to have some depth, which would make it a cylinder.

Not a cylinder, a cube.

A globe is a three dimensional circle, and Isaiah 40:22 says it's a circle.

People always interpret this verse wrong. It's a circle, not a ball. When you take a compass and inscribe a circle, you do it on a FLAT plane like a piece of paper for example. And Isaiah does not say three dimensional circle, he simply says circle. Don't put your words in the mouths of God's prophets.

Here is another verse in Isaiah:

Job 38:14 It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment.

Turned means changed like when Lot's wife turned into a pillar of salt; she change from human to salt.

When you seal something, it is like a king taking his signet ring and pressing down on clay or wax like an envelope for example.

When you press down into clay or wax with a signet ring, you get a flat surface with an upturned edge, the upturned edge representing the ice wall that surrounds the earth.

Also, the Bible says that the earth hangs on nothing in Job 26:7, which makes sense if the earth is a sphere in space.

Yes, the earth does not hang on anything because it is firmly fastened on pillars.

And Job 25:5 says that the moon shineth not.

Job 25:4 How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean that is born of a woman?

Job 25:5 Behold even to the moon, and it shineth not; yea, the stars are not pure in his sight.

The moon shineth not from the perspective of an unclean man, not the reality of the moon. And it also says the stars are not pure in HIS sight; are you saying that the stars are not their own lights too?

Gen 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

It's quite clear here; not only is the the moon a light, it's a GREAT light.

Also, you guys misuse verses on the 4 corners. 4 corners of the earth simply means the four cardinal directions of north, south, east and west. A corner does not mean flat. Leviticus 19:27 says, "Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard."

So, which of the 4 corners of the beard are you talking about; the north, south, east or west?

You see, the Bible describes the corners of our heads and our heads are more close to spherical, not flat.

corner
1 of 3
noun
cor·ner ˈkȯr-nər
Synonyms of corner
1
a
: the point where converging lines, edges, or sides meet : ANGLE
b
: the place of intersection of two streets or roads
c
: a piece designed to form, mark, or protect a corner
2
: the angular part or space between meeting lines, edges, or borders near the vertex of the angle
the southwest corner of the state
the corners of the tablecloth
: such as
a
: the area of a playing field or court near the intersection of the sideline and the goal line or baseline

Which part of this definition do you not understand?

Again, corners are what are on a flat square or rectangle.

The flat earth model doesn't work, because logically since Antarctica Is the ends of the earth and the whole outer ring, that is where the corners would be.

The corners are beyond the ice wall ( Antarctica ), we live within the circle.

Well, Revelation 20:8 says, "And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea."

I have to admit that I don't have an answer for this one, but here are some other verses to consider:

Zec 1:11 And they answered the angel of the LORD that stood among the myrtle trees, and said, We have walked to and fro through the earth, and, behold, all the earth sitteth still, and is at rest.

1Ch 16:30 Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved.

Psa 93:1 The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved.

It is clear here that the earth does not spin or rotate and does not orbit the sun.

Psa 104:1 Bless the LORD, O my soul. O LORD my God, thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty.

Psa 104:2 Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain
( or a tent, the firmament, the covering dome ):

Psa 104:5 Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.

Job 38:13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth...

Job 38:14 It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment.

Here the Lord is painting a word picture for Job, describing the shape of the earth. This is not some kind of metaphor or Spiritual poetry; it is a literal description of the shape of tge earth. When a king ( and Lord Jesus is the king of kings ) presses his signet ring into the clay, you get a flat structure with an upturned edge that surrounds the outer perimeter. The flat structure is the earth and the upturned edge is the ice wall( Antarctica ) that surrounds the earth and keeps the oceans contained.

This is why the United Nations, the World Health Organization, the Maritime Organization, the Aviation Organization and others all have the flat earth map as their logos because they are telling us that they know the truth. And it is a cosmic law commanded by God, that they have to reveal the truth behind their lies so those who have eyes to see and ears to hear will not be deceived.

Mar 4:22 For there is nothing hid, which shall not be manifested; neither was any thing kept secret, but that it should come abroad.

Why else would they have it?

Jos 10:11 And it came to pass, as they fled from before Israel, and were in the going down to Bethhoron, that the LORD cast down great stones from heaven upon them unto Azekah, and they died: they were more which died with hailstones than they whom the children of Israel slew with the sword.

Jos 10:12 Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.

Why would he be saying “ Sun, stand thou still “ unless it was moving?

Jos 10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

Jos 10:14 And there was no day like that before it or after it, that the LORD hearkened unto the voice of a man: for the LORD fought for Israel.

Psa 19:4 Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle ( tent, firmament, dome ) for the sun,

So the sun is inside the firmament or tent or dome and is very close.

Psa 19:5 Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.

And comparing the sun to a man running a race? That man is moving and so is the sun.

Psa 19:6 His going forth ( which means he's traveling or moving ) is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit
( his circular path ) unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.

Ecc 1:5 The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.

And I have seen video footage from different sources that show the clouds BEHIND the sun. And my brother has seen this in real life so it is not people making this stuff up and putting it in their videos.

Job 37:21 And now men see not the bright light which is in the clouds: but the wind passeth, and cleanseth them.

Men including the scientists just can't see this.

And if the sun were 93,000,000 miles away, it wouldn't get smaller as it moves out of our perspective or appears to set. 6000 miles wouldn't matter that much compared to 93,000,000 miles.

Lastly, another claim flat earthers make is that the firmament is the solid dome covering the earth. Well, Genesis 1:20 says that the fowls fly above the earth in the open firmament of Heaven.

Gen 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

Yes, there are 3 heavens the first one is the open air sky in which the birds fly and it is under and inside the second heaven which is the solid firmament. Why do you think the word FIRM is in the word FIRMament?

Is the gassy air firm?

Job 37:18 Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?

Once again; STRONG and MOLTEN GLASS which is like lead glass or lead crystal. It is not referring to thin air in our atmosphere.

Did you watch the video? To get a fuller understanding and the context of the thing, you really have to watch the video.

 
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