Intelligent Design is like a cheating meme, it makes complex processes look simple. That been said many people, whether they're actual scientists or not, and whether they are atheists or not, are impressed by the creative and to be honest cynical intelligence of natural evolution, and the fact that we are able to grasp some of it, is also something to be ravished about.
@hippyjoe1955 The fascinating thing about wjat we know, and what we are finding out, is that the more complex things we discover, further on down the track we are discovering the simplicities.
Quantum physics, (as little as i understand of it), is unifying theories.
@OogieBoogie exactly my point. We have no idea how complex things hBe to be in order for life to exist. Therefore to say things are too complex for it to be a good design is silly.
@hippyjoe1955 No, im saying simplicity IS clever design.
A club and an airliner are not designed to do the same thing. Its a bad ananlogy.
I think you've completely misunderstood what I'm saying .
[b]CURRENTLY [/b] mankind sees the physics of the universe to be exceedingly complex, and cant unite our theories of microcosms and macrocosms. And we know we are missing some crucial piece of understanding that unites them.
And that we are getting whispers of potentiality that it will totally flip what we know - if or when we do discover it into something way simpler than we currently understand it.
We used to believe it was matter amd force, amd niw we are discovering Tesla was right.
@hippyjoe1955 arent you quoting a text that you yourself explained has no proof of its truth coz it comes from ancient texts that we supposedly cant prove are true? (Per your argument)
I get you believe in God your way - and thats your truth. But you cant argue belief with logic, its a feeling, an innate noncorporeal thing.
We are talking creation. There is evidence to back up science that we understand so far.
That science [b][i]could [/i][/b]be god. Who knows?
So potentially to deny evolution, could be to deny god. Maybe god made it so simple, that he only had to programme the start of it, for it to perpetuate itself, evolve and grow?
Perhaps it was purely energy and frequencies?
Perhaps it was a multidimensional species of "gods" that can manipulate time and energy?
No one really knows for sure, except perhaps thsoe who have passed on 🤷
@OogieBoogie I have doing that exact thing all afternoon with you. If faith is not logical it is fantasy. Fantasy believes something came from nothing for no reason. Faith holds by well thought out and executed act of will we exist in our Creator being .made for Him and by Him in Him. You see Father is Will Son is Thought and Spirit is Presence by which and through which and in which explains our existence. No other explanation no matter how old makes sense.
@hippyjoe1955 you have a habit of making false statements like this - is it your innate emotional fall back ?....you seem to feel if you make an accusation - it makes it true in your mind🤷
Its fascinating to watch you do this repeatedly .
Agressive accusations are a symptom of feeling threatened.
I'm really sorry if my comments or this dicission made you feel in any way intimidated enough to react with hostility and unkindness.
@hippyjoe1955 it's ok honey. I apologize for putting pressure on what you believe. Your ultimatums are only meaningful to you 🤷 But if they are how you cope, then i understand.
