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Why Do The Skeptics Take The Chance At Being Wrong When They Don't Have To?

Why is it so important to them to take that chance? Has their delusions been so real to them that, even though they have no evidence or facts to support their delusions, to stick with them? They keep demanding my brothers and sisters and I to prove that God is alive and His Word is Truth by pulling this burden of proof nonsense on us. Why can't they see the fact that, since God already has proven Himself to mankind by His Word and His Work, the burden of proof is on them instead of us?





They see the evidence but they will not accept it as evidence. They want to believe that this came about by some freak accident and allow the fairy tale of evolution to take over in their distorted thinking. What are they afraid of? Why do they run when faced with the Truth? Don't they know that God doesn't wish to harm them when they humble themselves and seek His Face?




It's certain that they are afraid of hell fire. They want to believe that hell doesn't exist. In order to accomplish this, they must also believe that God doesn't live, or even heaven doesn't exist. They'll probably read this and laugh and mock and ridicule, but, they'll never prove what they want to believe is true. Hell was not meant for man at all, it was meant for the devil and his angels. Unfortunately, a lot people believe that it was meant for man as well, which isn't true.


God hates this because letting some of His beloved creation enter into hell breaks His heart. People don't realize that when they enter hell, that they'll discover, what God already knows, that it's a place of torment which no man or woman could with stand.



Their heart knowledge seeks after the Truth of God and not the lies of men.


Again, why would skeptics want to take the chance at being wrong when they don't have to?
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It's not like it's a binary choice between Christianity and atheism. You're taking the same chance if Islam or Buddhism or Hinduism or even a different denomination of Christianity is true. Imagine us both getting to heaven and finding out that Shinto is the one true religion and we're both in trouble.

Also, it's not like someone can force themselves to believe something they consider absurd. You can't force yourself to not believe in God, so it's hypocritical of you to ask why non-believers don't force themselves to believe. It's not like that would work anyway. Would God be fooled by false belief? Are you saying if I force myself to sit in church every Sunday, mumbling the hymns and checking my watch every few minutes, I'll go to heaven? It doesn't work that way.

Just curious, if you were wrong about Jesus, would you want to know? Or would you prefer to live in ignorance of the truth? It's a hypothetical question, I'm aware that you don't think you're wrong. I'm just asking if you would want to know if you were.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@LeopoldBloom [quote]You're taking the same chance if Islam or Buddhism or Hinduism or even a different denomination of Christianity is true.[/quote]

Where'd you get the idea that those man made religions are denominations of Christianity?
DocSavage · M
@GodSpeed63
Islam and Christianity believe in the god of Abraham chuckles. Remember ? Same god , different interpretations. Yahweh wasn’t very clear.
@GodSpeed63 I didn't say they were. I was listing different religions, followed by Christianity. I'm sure you think Catholics, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Coptics, Eastern Orthodox, and other Christian denominations are just as bad as non-Christian religions.

Predictably, you didn't answer my question. If you were wrong in your beliefs, would you want to know? It's a yes or no question.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@LeopoldBloom [quote] If you were wrong in your beliefs, would you want to know?[/quote]

Yes, so I can change my beliefs to line up with the Word of God. His Word is the only solid Truth we have in this fallen world of ours.
DocSavage · M
@GodSpeed63
Then what is the point of your question ? Skeptics look for hard evidence. They want to make the right choice. That’s why they take the chance. They don’t go by blind faith or tradition.
You just discredited your own argument.
@GodSpeed63 So if Islam was in fact the true religion, you'd want to know that so you could convert.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@LeopoldBloom [quote]So if Islam was in fact the true religion, you'd want to know that so you could convert.[/quote]

Why would I want to do that when the Spirit of God brings me in to all Truth? I don't need to convert to any religion.
@GodSpeed63 So you wouldn't want to know if you were wrong.

It's a hypothetical question. I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm asking if you were wrong, would you want to know. It's a yes or no question. If Islam was true and Christianity was false, you wouldn't want to know that because Christianity works for you and you'd prefer not to change that.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@LeopoldBloom [quote]So you wouldn't want to know if you were wrong.[/quote]

My God is never wrong and neither is His Spirit that dwells within me. If I am wrong, then I must change my belief to line up with His Word as His Spirit convicts me.
DocSavage · M
@GodSpeed63
He didn’t say [b]your god[/b] is wrong. He asked you if you would want to know if [b]you[/b] were wrong. You admit that humans are capable of making mistakes. Even if god is never wrong, you can be.
Therefore the rules of evidence and proof need to be consistent. The burden of proof needs to be met.
@GodSpeed63 I'm not asking for a religious diatribe. We all know what you believe since you trumpet it here constantly. I'm asking a hypothetical question. Do you know what "hypothetical" means? It means "imagine that this is the case, now what would you do?" An example would be "if you were a billionaire, what would you do with the money?" The answer isn't "I'm not a billionaire," it's "I would spend it on XYZ."

So again, with the understanding that your current belief system is 100% correct and you have no doubt of that whatsoever, [i]hypothetically[/i], if you were wrong, would you want to know? The only answers are "yes" or "no," not "my God is never wrong." I've already granted that, so now you can answer the question without having to boast about how wonderful your faith is.
DocSavage · M
@LeopoldBloom
It’s at this point he usually tells you to prove god isn’t alive. Don’t expect a yes or no answer.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@LeopoldBloom [quote] if you were wrong, would you want to know?[/quote]

I already answered that question, why are you asking it again? How about you answer your own question while you're at it?
@GodSpeed63 You answered it twice, yes the first time, no the second. So I take it that you'd want to know if you're wrong if you weren't already a Christian, but since you are a Christian, you wouldn't want to know.

As for me, since I'm interested in the truth, I would want to know if I'm wrong. However, someone just telling me "you're wrong" the way you've been doing isn't sufficient. I'd need objective and verifiable proof. The proof that you're satisfied with isn't enough. If God is as intelligent and powerful as you say he is, and if he does want me to believe in him, it's odd that he's withholding the proof that I would need. Surely he knows what proof I would need to believe in him.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@LeopoldBloom [quote] I'd need objective and verifiable proof.[/quote]

Yes, to which you haven't given me verifying that what you're telling me about no God at all is actually true.
@GodSpeed63 I don't have any proof that God doesn't exist and never claimed to. I also don't care if you believe in God or not. My only objection is if you attempt to impose the strictures of your religion onto secular society. I hope we're in agreement on that; I'm sure you wouldn't enjoy living under sharia law any more than I would. So we both have a stake in maintaining a society where there's no government-mandated religion, and everyone is free to worship (or not worship) as they wish.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@LeopoldBloom [quote] I don't have any proof that God doesn't exist and never claimed to.[/quote]

If that's the case, then accept the fact that He does live and that His Word is the Truth.
DocSavage · M
@GodSpeed63
He doesn’t have any proof that god is alive or that his word is the truth either. So why should he believe in something without proof ?
The argument goes both ways.
@GodSpeed63 I don't have proof that the Tooth Fairy doesn't exist, so by your logic, you should believe in it.

I'm not capable of believing in something absurd without concrete evidence. So what is your God waiting for? I'm right here, he can reveal himself anytime. Yet instead, he remains hidden, while sending arrogant, self-appointed spokesmen like you to represent him. Why is that?
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@LeopoldBloom [quote]I don't have proof that the Tooth Fairy doesn't exist,[/quote]

Neither do I but a made up tooth fairy is one thing, God, who was never made up, is another.
DocSavage · M
@GodSpeed63
There are thousands of gods. Are you now saying they’re all real and not made up ?
@GodSpeed63 Can you provide objective, verifiable proof of your God's existence? If not, he's no more real than the Tooth Fairy. How else would you explain the appearance of coins when a tooth is left beneath a pillow?
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@LeopoldBloom [quote]Can you provide objective, verifiable proof?[/quote]

You should ask yourself that question being that you're the one that has to prove that my God doesn't live. As for your question, look in the mirror.
@GodSpeed63 I don't have to prove a negative. You're making a positive claim, so the burden of proof is on you. A negative claim doesn't have to be proven. Neither of us has to prove that the Tooth Fairy doesn't exist.

If I look in the mirror, I see myself. So that proves I exist. Assuming that a deity created me is unwarranted. And even if I do assert that, there's no proof that the particular deity you happen to believe in is the one who did.
DocSavage · M
@GodSpeed63
[quote] God, who was never made up, is another.[/quote]
Prove that the thousands of other gods throughout human history are not alive. Since god are never made up, there is now no reason not to believe otherwise.