I believe this to be true. A person can never find the Creator through physical or even logical means. It has to be through our spirit or soul. Then we find God within us [quote]King James Bible But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. [/quote]
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Those words can be a trap. What we "know" and which others find "foolish" will be vindicated in our mind/hearts, leading to self-congratulation on being "spiritual" and of those others as "natural". Just a vicious circle of self-justification.
@SW-User well the real point is that you will not find God through physical means. Only spiritual.
SW-User
@Axeroberts Yes, I understand. Myself, I'm non-dualist. I don't think in terms of physical v spiritual.
But I was referring back to times in my own past, in dialogue with various Christians, who would respond to any form of rejection of their beliefs by pointing to such texts as "the Cross of Christ, folly to the Greeks' or those about the "spiritual man" v the "natural man". To call [i]anything at all[/i] into question of their own beliefs was to immediately be told that you are seeing what is "God revealed" as "foolish", and that you were just the "natural man". Such people are presumptuous and in fact rarely show any genuine evidence of insight, let alone any true knowledge of the Christian Faith in its full strength, width and depth.
@SW-User it should be in their own belief as opposed to someone else telling them what to believe
SW-User
@Axeroberts I think it [i]real[/i] and important to genuinely say "thank you". Often. Perhaps until gratitude becomes part of us. Many give me the impression of simply trusting in their "decision", their "choice", the correctness of their belief. All "works".
Pure gratitude (its implications) will always include and embrace all others. It is Faith.
Alternatively, belief will always separate and divide.
