The Lie: There's No God - The Truth: There's The One Truth God

@kodiac Whose side you on? God's or the devil? And I don't mean that to sound, or be, mean. I don't understand you. Sometimes you talk like you would like to know and have God in your life and especially the way you grew up, you know there's a God but yet you talk so negatively about him. If you don't believe then why say anything at all? You know God loves you. When we love God and accept him, that doesn't mean we get every little thing we want like a spoiled kid and then if we don't, we turn against him.

@LadyGrace I'm not on any side but i don't believe in the bible or the god you do . I'm a realist and this is what i believe if there is a omnipotent god or creator it's not the benolevent kind loving figure and why should it be ? Does the inventor have to love his creation? Why isn't it enough for you to understand what others see as god ? But no it has to align with your beliefs no room for compromise .Your way or else . If anything i align with the native American view of the mother earth and the great spirit. Nature is my god not the other way around . This is the actual song i posted and you might even like it [media=https://youtu.be/90P0n5AlSlA]

@kodiac [quote]I'm a realist and this is what i believe if there is a omnipotent god or creator it's not the benolevent kind loving figure and why should it be ? Does the inventor have to love his creation? Why isn't it enough for you to understand what others see as god ? But no it has to align with your beliefs no room for compromise .[/quote]

I will be glad to listen to the song. I love Native Americans, and you have me so wrong. I keep telling you dear, but you keep insisting that I feel everyone should believe only what I believe. I love everyone and I respect what they believe. But what Jesus said is even way more important because our decision determines where we'll spend eternity. That's what he said, and we should believe what He says, if we want to have eternal life in heaven.

You talk about compromise. When Jesus was on the cross, he didn't compromise our souls. He meant business, and paid for our sins himself with his own blood so he could make sure we didn't miss heaven. That's pure love because he didn't have to do it, but he did because of his great love for us. People may not be serious about his death, but HE sure was and he wasn't about to let our souls slip away from him. And that's why he promised that any who comes to him will be saved. But if they won't believe in him and refuse to take him up on his offer of salvation, then how can they expect to go to heaven? How can anyone expect to go to heaven with their sins still on their heels? God means business. He proved that on the cross. And what kind of question is that, does a Creator have to love his creation? Of course God loves his creation and again, he proved it on the cross. When Jesus died on the cross, it couldn't have been more "real" to Him. He felt every sin of ours, he paid for, in the flesh and he had every one of us on His mind, when he did it. He did something that nature or Mother Earth can never do for us....save us. It is withering away.

@LadyGrace Why would god let his greatest creation wither away ? The earth gives us life it sustains us . Man.is not gods greatest creation and once you understand that everything looks different What was this great sacrifice if god knew all along he could just resurrect jesus? After he rose from the dead then where is he ? If i told you my friend was resurrected from the grave what would be your response? maybe prove it? Or would you just take my word for it ? Also what if i told you I'd put you into a lake of fire if you don't believe me?

@kodiac Jesus said, "What shall it profit a man, if he gains the whole world, but loses his own soul?" Mark 8:36

[quote]Why would god let his greatest creation wither away ? The earth gives us life it sustains us .[/quote]

Mankind introduced sin into this world, not God. Sin always brings death, both physical and spiritual. Evil is destroying this earth, we can see it every day. It is dying. The Bible says it won't always be here. It is not sustaining us and it never will. Our time is short and it's time to prepare for the afterlife, if we're smart.

[quote]Man is not gods greatest creation and once you understand that everything looks different[/quote]

Once you understand that God means what he says and nothing changes His plans, especially to save us from what's to come, you'll do so much better. You are not smarter nor wiser than God. God said we ARE His greatest Creation. Who are you to question Him? He MADE you.

This just shows me when you ask me why God would create us if he knew this and that and what was His great sacrifice, that you don't read what I send you because I explained that all in great detail to you before. It's a shame you do not acknowledge God nor are you thankful to God for his great sacrifice on the cross, because he did it just for you and hear you say no I want no part of it. I won't believe you, God. You will never ever know how horribly he suffered on the cross, just for you, for me, and the whole world. Just so we could be saved from hell, and you slough it off, as if it's [u]nothing[/u]. Because it means nothing to you. You think that was an easy task for Him, a walk in the park? No appreciation whatsoever. God proved his love once and for all when he came to this earth and then died for our sins. He doesn't have to do it again and prove himself all over again, because you and some others, won't believe. If you don't believe and take God at His Word [u]now[/u]....you never will. You don't hurt anyone but yourself with your unbelief. We don't get to make the rules for the standard of salvation. God did that and it's not up to us to change it. If you think you can get to heaven on your own, then give it a try and see what happens. It is foolishness, God said, to reject so great a Salvation in Christ.

[quote]What if i told you I'd put you into a lake of fire if you don't believe me?
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What if you were God and you suffered so badly on the cross to save us from our sins, yet we didn't believe you? You don't understand. Jesus didn't come to [b]send[/b] us to hell, he came to SAVE us FROM hell! It is those who refuse God's Plan of Salvation that go to hell, because [b]they[/b] decided they didn't want it! THEY decided THEY wanted no part of God's saving them from hell. God did not make that decision for them, so He will give them what they wanted and asked for. They won't be able to use the excuse that they never had a chance to be saved. You need to get that through your head. God means what he says.

@LadyGrace I do read your responses and you keep saying the same thing over and over in plain language not bible speak you are telling me you are right and I'm wrong .Period . Just like i say every time we have discussion. You are right., My thoughts or opinons or belief do not matter because you are right and i am wrong . I have at least listened to your side but you dismiss mine because you are right and i am wrong.No matter how you sugar coat it it's actually disrespectful to me . Yet you want it to seem like I'm disrespectful. So instead if copying and paste bible verses, just say it you are right and I'm wrong and im going to the lake of fire

@kodiac Now you're a smart man. You know better than that. I keep telling you what JESUS SAID in His Word. That's not MY INTERPRETATION. It is what GOD SAID IN HIS WORD. I said WHAT HE SAYS IS RIGHT. I never told you to believe me. God said to believe what he says in his word and to trust him and you will be saved. Keep making excuses. You're going to excuse yourself right out of Heaven. And the rest of what you accuse me of is so ridiculous and off base, it doesn't even deserve an answer. It's [i]you[/i] that insists that I think I know better and you don't and that I'm right and you're wrong, so go ahead and think that. I keep telling you differently, but you don't believe me, so that's not on me. I have only ever promoted Jesus and what HE says, as gospel truth. It's you that insists on being right, instead of listening to what God has to say to you.