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The Truth: Jesus Said, "I AM The Way!"

7 Then Jesus said to them again, “Most assuredly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. 8 All who ever came [a]before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them. 9 I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture. 10 The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.
11 “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep. 12 But a [b]hireling, he who is not the shepherd, one who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees; and the wolf catches the sheep and scatters them. 13 The hireling flees because he is a hireling and does not care about the sheep. 14 I am the good shepherd; and I know My sheep, and am known by My own. 15 As the Father knows Me, even so I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep. 16 And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one shepherd.
17 “Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again. 18 No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This command I have received from My Father.”

John 10:7-18

Jesus makes it clear that He is the only Way to God. There is no other way, not even through religion.
Amen! Not even through religion, is right! No religion died on the cross to save us from our sins. Jesus certainly never left us to guess on how to get to heaven. He told us exactly how to get there. None will be able to say that they didn't know how, because the gospel has been spread around the world. We need to get ready for His coming. Thank you so much for this important post.
@cherokeepatti

These are all examples of hypocrites. What a shame and so sad. God said to take care of the poor and widows. To love our neighbor as ourselves and always to help and love each other. These type churches you mentioned make me sick to my stomach. I can imagine how God feels. Such hypocrites. There's no excuse for that. Some are just money hungry as you have stated. They will pay a high price for their hypocrisy.
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@LadyGrace Regarding your:-

[i]Jesus certainly never left us to guess on how to get to heaven. He told us exactly how to get there. None will be able to say that they didn't know how, because the gospel has been spread around the world. [/i]


This is truly absurd. When [i]you[/i] (born and bred and conditioned within a Christian, even a Protestant Reform Sub-sect of the Faith) hear Islam being proclaimed, or the words of the Buddhist Dharma, or the words and instructions found in the Bhagavad Gita (I could go on) [i]you[/i] , I presume, do not particularly listen. Yet you assert that those born and bred, conditioned by other faiths in other countries throughout our world, hearing a few snippets of what [i]you[/i] take as Truth should immediately acknowledge "Jesus is Lord" and will stand condemned if they don't.

Truly pathetic. In effect you judge such people, although you will now - I presume - say that is not so.

Others who share your own beliefs can give you the thumbs up, but ultimately your judge will be Truth. As for all.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@SW-User [quote]Others who share your own beliefs can give you the thumbs up, but ultimately your judge will be Truth. As for all.[/quote]

And what is the 'Truth' to you, Sam?
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[i]The only really absolute mysteries in Christianity are the self-communication of God in the depths of existence—which we call grace, and in history—which we call Christ.
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(Fr. Karl Rahner, Jesuit priest and theologian, 1904–1984)

Such grace and self-communication is not restricted to the understanding and creedal formulas of Protestant Reform Theology, nor their biblical hermeneutics.

The Catholic monk Thomas Merton spoke in his Journal of a passage from Irenaeus, one of the early Church Fathers .(A passage that my own understanding and experience associates with the Pure Land notion of "being made to become so (of itself) without/beyond the calculation of the devotee, where "no working is true working")

The passage was:- [i]If you are the work of God wait patiently for the hand of your artist who makes all things at an opportune time........Give to Him a pure and supple heart and watch over the form which the artist shapes in you........lest, in hardness, you lose the traces of his fingers......[/i]

Merton commented:-

[i]The reification of faith. Real meaning of the phrase we are saved by faith = we are saved by Christ, whom we encounter in faith. But constant disputation about faith has made Christians become obsessed with faith almost as an object, at least as an experience, a "thing" and in concentrating upon it they lose sight of Christ. Whereas faith without the encounter with Christ and without His presence is less than nothing. It is the deadest of dead works, an act elicited in a moral and existential void. To seek to believe that one believes, and arbitrarily to decree that one believes, and then to conclude that this gymnastic has been blessed by Christ - this is pathological Christianity. And a Christianity of works. One has this mental gymnastic in which to trust. One is safe, one possesses the psychic key to salvation......[/i]

The "encounter with Christ" is beyond the parameters set by any theology or creed.
@GodSpeed63 The concept of a “personal relationship with Christ” originated with 17th century German Pietists.
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@GodSpeed63 I consider "revelation" to be all creation, all Reality, and that nothing has pre eminence.

Any moment can be one where grace is known, received, surrendered to. In that moment, it will have pre eminence. We are all unique individuals.

Thank you
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@SW-User [quote]I consider "revelation" to be all creation, all Reality, and that nothing has pre eminence. [/quote]

You didn't answer my question.
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Hi there, I see that the calvary has arrived...😀. Just to say that such words as you quote are well known to all Universalists and those who recognise that the Way is found in the Universal Christ and not simply in, or through, "Jesus". Maybe you should seek to expand your own knowledge of Christianity in its full width and depth. Open your heart to a Biblical hermeneutics not restricted to Protestant Reform Theology.

"Truth" is never ours, we are not its mouthpiece. There is the [i]Living Word[/i] which blows where it will. You mistake a text and your own time conditioned understanding of it for the Living Word.

All the best.
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@GodSpeed63 I am not confused. I was simply referring to your predictable way of entering and bringing in the paradox of "by whose authority".

Many will resist any attempt to be catergorised, insisting upon being simply "of the truth", the "true Christian". And "the Lord knows His own"; those to be found throughout Christendom. Safe within their enclave of what amounts to no more than self-justifications of the ego. In effect denying Christ to any who might seek to disagree or call anything into question.

[i]But the magicians keep turning the Cross to their own purpose. Yes, it is for them too a sign of contradiction: the awful blasphemy of the religious magician who makes the Cross contradict mercy. This of course is the ultimate temptation of Christianity. To say that Christ has locked all doors, has given one answer, settled everything and departed, leaving all life enclosed in the frightful consistency of a system outside of which there is seriousness and damnation, inside of which there is the intolerable flippancy of the saved - while nowhere is there any place left for the mystery of the freedom of divine mercy which alone is truly serious, and worthy of being taken seriously.
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(From "Raids on the Unspeakable", Thomas Merton)
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@SW-User [quote]I am not confused. I was simply referring to your predictable way of entering and bringing in the paradox of "by whose authority". [/quote]

Then why did you say that I was attempting to confuse you?

[quote]Many will resist any attempt to be categorized, insisting upon being simply "of the truth", the "true Christian"[/quote]

There are two groups of Christians, Sam: those that are true believers in Christ and there those religious people who call themselves Christians but are not true believers. Which Christians are you referring to?
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@GodSpeed63 Please! I said I would not respond again, but you ask direct questions. It would be rude to ignore them

Answer 1:- Simply put, an "attempt" is not actually to succeed.

Answer 2:- I was referring to you, irrespective of "true" or "false" (which is your own mode of thought)

(Your own avoidance of truly addressing any point being made is why I shall this time not respond, direct questions or not)

Thank you.
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GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@jshm2 [quote]Jesus also doesn't say he is the only way to God. [/quote]

Sure He does. You need to read John 14:6.
sexylady89 · F
Amen brother
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@sexylady89 Which brother? 😀
DocSavage · M
Nonsense, just take the left turn at Albuquerque . Go a couple miles, until you get to the fork in the road, and your there.
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