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Belief Follows Truth: The Truth Of God Wins Out Every Time.

Regardless of what skeptics say, Yahweh lives forever and ever. These skeptics claim that Yahweh isn't real, yet, they fail to support that claim. They also claim that His Word isn't true, yet, fail to support that claim. The skeptics come face-to-face with the Truth of God and still reject it. Why? They also have to believe that God or man started man made organized religions in order for us to appease God. Why? Matthew 23 clearly state how God feels about made organized religions. It seems to me that their religion is chasing tail and never catching it. These 'tail chasers' keep losing at their own game every time. They seem to think that they can win their game by ridiculing, mocking, and insulting Yahweh and those of us who believe in Him. This is just vanity. You can't push the lies of men to become true, it's impossible to do. The Truth of God remains the truth and no man can ever change it.

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Graylight · 51-55, F

1. Existence of something is the claim - you support that before there's any argument to be had. Ours is not to prove the negative (I understand I'm already out of your depth here). If I tell you the sun is blue, you don't have to prove it's not; I have to prove it's blue.

2. Truth is a fact accepted as valid. It's that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality. What truth is not: Interpretive, unsupported, no-reproducible, unobserved, opinion, a feeling or a belief. You are discussing faith and your belief. You are not discussing truth.

3. Your book is relevant only to you. It's a history book, a tale of adventure, a record of man and insight into the human soul, but it's not a magical text handed to you from God's own hands.

Have your faith. Share your testimony. But do it as someone who simply wants to relay that which they have found in their lives. The very second you walk up to someone with a superiority complex explaining you know best, you shut that person down for good. Nothing is heard after that.

I've read a lot of literature on this topic. Some books claim to know the same and other truths. The Bible also included numerous gospels not included in the streamlined version. I suppose those are God's truth, too?

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Graylight · 51-55, F

@SpiritualMan Could be. I have made point in my life to discount nothing.

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@Graylight

1. Existence of something is the claim - you support that before there's any argument to be had. Ours is not to prove the negative (I understand I'm already out of your depth here).

Yahweh has already proven Himself to mankind through His Word and through His work. It's up to the skeptic to prove that God doesn't live just like me proving to you that the sun is not blue.

2 You are discussing faith and your belief. You are not discussing truth.

My faith comes from the Word of God which is truth from Genesis to Revelation. He wrote the book through holy men of their time. God's not a man that He is capable of lying.

3. Your book is relevant only to you.

That 'book' is relevant to everyone. God wishes that none of us be lost but come to saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.

The very second you walk up to someone with a superiority complex explaining you God knows best, you shut that person down for good. Nothing is heard after that.

I am not superior to anybody and my God does know what is best for us. It's His Word.

Some books claim to know the same and other truths.

Truth doesn't work that way, it's for everyone on the face of this planet. Nobody can own truth but God alone since He's the Author of truth. We can only know the Truth through His Spirit of Truth when we become born again. Read the Gospel of John.

Graylight · 51-55, F

@GodSpeed63 Comment stands.

LeopoldBloom · M

@GodSpeed63 I've read the same Bible you have, and came to a very different conclusion. So "Yahweh" hasn't "proved" anything.

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@LeopoldBloom

I've read the same Bible you have, and came to a very different conclusion. So "Yahweh" hasn't "proved" anything.

You may have read the Word of God, Leo, but you lack understanding of it.

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@GodSpeed63

You may have read the Word of God, Leo, but you lack understanding of it.

Can you summarize what the Bible is about?

LeopoldBloom · M

@GodSpeed63 I understand it better than you do.

Graylight · 51-55, F

Can you? Can you divide it into its epistles, Pauline and otherwise? Can you flip to Acts or discuss the role of eschatology in cultures of the land in ancient times? Can you clarify the differences and similarities of the gospels, putting them in their right order and discussing the communities for which they were written and what their differing messages are? Certainly you can talk about the Bible and its place among other world religions and cultures and how that differs. And no doubt realizing that barely a single word can be proven to exist in its original form, can you summarize the infinite changes and reorganization of this book, highlighting crucial language differences between ancient Aramaic and modern-day English.

Ot did you just memorize words? @GodSpeed63

DocSavage · M

@GodSpeed63
If Yahweh is so important, why are there no days or festivals in his honor?
Even the days of the week are named for other gods. Jesus had to steal the two celebrating his birth and rebirth. It even says in the bible that December 25th isn’t his birthday. Easter is a fertility festival. Two main events, and they’re both lies.

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DocSavage · M

@SpiritualMan
Christmas is a pagan celebration, the winter solstice. Jesus and pine trees do not mix. Easter is a fertility festival, Jesus and bunnies with colored eggs also do not go together. It’s history, it’s fact regardless of your personal beliefs. And you can not change facts with faith.

DocSavage · M

@SpiritualMan
It wasn’t the Jews that made Christmas Jesus’s birthday. It was the Pope and the Catholic Church. It originally was a celebration of the sun’s return.
( longer days ) they would burn a large log on the fire, and party until it burnt out. Had nothing whatsoever to do with Jesus.

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@DocSavage

If Yahweh is so important, why are there no days or festivals in his honor?
Even the days of the week are named for other gods. Jesus had to steal the two celebrating his birth and rebirth. It even says in the bible that December 25th isn’t his birthday. Easter is a fertility festival. Two main events, and they’re both lies.

IMO, you're missing the point. The Christmas holiday is an oblique observance to the wise men visiting baby Jesus and recognizing him as the king of the Jews. It illustrates the clause in the 4th Commandment about not appearing before God empty-handed.

Exodus 34:20 (TLB) = "20 The firstborn colt of a donkey may be redeemed by giving a lamb in its place. If you decide not to redeem it, then its neck must be broken. But your sons must all be redeemed. And no one shall appear before me without a gift."

The Easter ritual was created to celebrate the observance of Jesus' resurrection.

People tend to get hung-up on the dates, which are not that important. What should be important is the reason for the observances.

If you want to observe Christmas on April 19 and Easter on September 23, do it but remember that you are doing it because you recognize Jesus as the king of the Jews and think that he will give you eternal life.

DocSavage · M

@Diotrephes
Wrong again. Easter is even older than Christmas. Long before JC or the Bible going back to the goddess Ishtar.
Celebration of spring and rebirth ( not Jesus’s resurrection ) rabbits and eggs were a symbol of fertility , they have nothing to do with Jesus.
The Bible is not the only book, try reading up on actual history.

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@DocSavage Who gives a damn? The discussion is about the Christian observance of those events. They tied them to the Jesus character. The observances can be tied to events in the Bible. So, if they don't mean anything to you, simply ignore them.

LeopoldBloom · M

@Diotrephes Good point. The origin is irrelevant. It's like complaining about people having a barbecue on Memorial Day which was originally to remember the soldiers who have died serving their country.

DocSavage · M

@Diotrephes
No it isn’t. I asked a question. “Why are there no days in honor of Yahweh”
The two holidays which honor Jesus ( not Yahweh ) were long established festivals annexed by the church, over time they became more christianized, but both have deep pagan roots that predate Christianity. This is a fact of history. You can’t change the past just by refusing to acknowledge other, older religions.
And it doesn’t answer why Yahweh isn’t mentioned or honored like the pagan gods are.

LeopoldBloom · M

@DocSavage They don't call him "Yahweh." Jews don't use that name; in fact, Orthodox Jews are so careful, they write "G-d" and when referring to God in conversation, say "hashem" meaning "the name." Christians use "God," "Lord," and "Jehovah" when referring to Yahweh. Muslims of course use "Allah." So while the name "Yahweh" isn't mentioned, the entity it represents is definitely honored.

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@DocSavage The 4 holidays established for Yahweh (God) are specified in the 3rd, 6th, and 8th Commandments.

Exodus 34:18 (NKJV) = "18 “The Feast of Unleavened Bread you shall keep. Seven days you shall eat unleavened bread, as I commanded you, in the appointed time of the month of Abib; for in the month of Abib you came out from Egypt."

Exodus 34:22 (NKJV) = "22 “And you shall observe the Feast of Weeks, of the firstfruits of wheat harvest, and the Feast of Ingathering at the year’s end."

Exodus 34:25 (NKJV) = "25 “You shall not offer the blood of My sacrifice with leaven, nor shall the sacrifice of the Feast of the Passover be left until morning."

DocSavage · M

@LeopoldBloom
Only because the church annexed a couple of festivals. Several other gods are honored directly by name. No holidays however for what is supposed to be the one true god.

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DocSavage · M

@SpiritualMan
He equals A god, to some not necessarily the god to everyone

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@DocSavage Actually, every sabbath is a holiday for the biblical God character. If you do any work on that day you are to be stoned to death.

It is the 5th Commandment =
Exodus 34:21 (NKJV) ="21 “Six days you shall work, but on the seventh day you shall rest; in plowing time and in harvest you shall rest."

"A holiday is a day set aside by custom or by law on which normal activities, especially business or work including school, are suspended or reduced."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holiday

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