Belief Follows Truth: Regardless Of What The Skeptics Say, God Still Wins In The End.

@Sharon
And, you still couldn't do it, Sharon. I don't know what troubles you about God, Sharon, but claiming that He isn't real doesn't cut it.

@GodSpeed63
Why do you believe the biblical God character is real instead of one of the other 33,000,000 Gods people have worshiped?

@GodSpeed63 I'm still waiting for you to accept my offer by setting the standard of proof you consider sufficient. I'm confident I can prove your god doesn't exist to whatever standard of proof you set. It appears you're not as confiident I would fail. Where's your faith? It appears to be totally absent.
https://similarworlds.com/spirituality/3339251-Does-any-christian-have-sufficient-faith-to-accept

@Diotrephes @Sharon
His Spirit lives within me just as He promised when I asked Him. Sharon, I could give you a number of standards that would suffice and you still wouldn't be able to prove that my God isn't real. I'll put it this way: It would be like you trying to prove that your own father isn't real. Get the picture?

@GodSpeed63 Don't lie. If you could you would accept my offer.

All you need do is prove The Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't live to whatever standard of proof you consider sufficient and I'll prove your god doesn't exist to at least that same standard of proof. If proving the FSM doen't live is too difficult for you, nominate one of the millions of other gods you don't believe in instead and prove He/She/It doesn't live. What are you waiting for?

@Sharon
Sharon, I don't care if you think I'm lying or not, the Truth of God still remains the Truth of God. All you've accomplished is letting me know what I've known all along: You have nothing to support your claims. The moment you can acknowledge that, the better off you'll be. There's no shame in admitting that you were wrong, Sharon.

@GodSpeed63 A lot of christians are arrogant, it's almost a sine qua non of being christian, but you must be among the most arrogant of all. Your lies have being exposed time after time but you refuse to acknowledge that fact and just keep flooding this site with the same old BS.. You're blind to the truth.

I've offered several times to prove your god (the thing you call Yahewh in case you've forgotten again) doesn't exist to whatever standard of proof you set. The fact that neither you nor any other christian has accepted my offer tell me you know I'll succeed and your whole house of cards will come tumbling down. By refusing to accept my offer, you're proving Atheists (and other non-christians) right.

The only "truth of god" is that there is no evidence it exists and the sooner you acknowledge that fact the better of we'll all be. As you say, there's no shame in admitting that you were wrong, Godspeed.

@Sharon
Arrogance comes from skeptics like yourself, Sharon, and not from True Believers in Christ.

@GodSpeed63 LOL! Thanks for proving my point so concisely.👍

@Sharon
Sharon, you just proved my point. You're one of most arrogant skeptics on here. I pity you and will be praying for you.

@Sharon You will walk on the Sun eating ice cream before you get a reasonable answer to your question.

@Sharon There's a clever joke in the Bible about praying.

In Matthew chapter 6 the Jesus character blabs about how people should pray. Then, at the end, he says that it's useless to pray for things because God knows what you need and if he wants you to have it, he will give it to you.

He said that you shouldn't use vain repetitions as the heathen do (Matthew 6:7) but in Mark 14:39 (CEB) that is exactly what he did = "39 Again, he left them and prayed, repeating the same words."

In Matthew 26:44 (CEB) = "But he left them and again went and prayed the same words for the third time."

Luke 6:12 (CEB) = "During that time, Jesus went out to the mountain to pray, and he prayed to God all night long."

@Diotrephes

Diotrephes, it's obvious you know nothing of Scriptures. Making fun of them does nothing for your case.

@GodSpeed63 The writers wrote a very successful hoax. They included countless passages such as those that showed that they were just writing a hoax to fool the gullible. It is hard to see that if you just read the paper version. When you do a computer search of key words it becomes very obvious.

BTW, have you ever figured out what the real Ten Commandments are? If not, you should refrain from making future comments because you obviously don't have a clue.

@GodSpeed63 As a follow-up to our comments from four days ago, have you ever figured out what the real Ten Commandments are?

@Diotrephes
I know them, Diotrephes, do you?

@GodSpeed63 If you know them, then all you have to do is cite the relevant verses that contain them.

@Diotrephes
You didn't answer my question.

@GodSpeed63 Of course I know them. I am asking you if you know what they are. All you have to do is post the link to the relevant verses and you will pass along your knowledge to countless other people. There's no reason to be shy; share your knowledge with the world. If you are right I will agree with you. If you are wrong I will provide the correct answer. We are not discussing how to build a spaceship that can go 100 times the speed of light.

@Diotrephes
So, why do you need me to explain them to you?

@GodSpeed63 It is a waste of time to continue with you so I will block you unless you provide the relevant verses to what the Ten Commandments are.

@Diotrephes He clearly doesn't know what he's talking about. He's just a bullshitting troll.

@Diotrephes @Sharon


You wanted the Ten Commandments. Here they are. The Truth of God's Word.

@GodSpeed63 Thank you for responding. However, THOSE ARE NOT THE TEN COMMANDMENTS.

The Ten Commandments story is the easiest story in the Bible to understand because it is linear. If you are willing you can easily resolve this issue for yourself in less than two hours.

Get a pen and some sheets of blank paper. Your reading assignment is Exodus chapter 19 through Exodus chapter 34. Exodus chapter 19 simply sets the stage for what follows so don't omit it.

As you read, summarize the verses in your own words, picking out the key ideas.

You will see that the commandments in Exodus chapter 20 that you cited are not called the Ten Commandments, were not written on stone tablets, and included more than ten commandments.

As you continue to read and note, you will see that the commandments keep rolling non-stop for several chapters.

In Exodus 24:4 Moses became a scribe and wrote everything down, made an altar, and did the burnt offering thing with hints of black magic. He then gets his buddies and they have a picnic with God.

In Exodus 25-30 Moses gets all kinds of instructions on how to be a fashion decorator and artist and pharmacist.

In Exodus 31:18 Moses gets the two stone tablets.

In Exodus 32 God and Moses hear the people exercising freedom of religion and get pissed. God wants to go on a killing spree but Moses tells him to chill and he'll do it. Moses lugs the stone tablets down the mountain, flies into a rage, smashes the tablets, and has his thugs kill about three thousand men. He lets his brother, Aron, who was behind it, off the hook without even saying an angry word to him.

In Exodus 34 God and Moses kiss and make up and, in Exodus 34:1, God tells Moses to chip out some stone tablets and lug them up the mountain for a do-over. Of course it's done in secret.

Exodus 34:10 explains the basis for the biblical miracles. That's why there are no such miracles today.

Exodus 34:11-26 contain the real Ten Commandments that were written on the stone tablets. Pay attention to Exodus 34:27-28 (NCB) = "27 The Lord said to Moses, “Write down these words, for in accordance with them I have established a covenant with you and with Israel.”

28 Moses remained with the Lord for forty days and forty nights without eating bread or drinking water. And he wrote the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments, on the tablets."

It is essential to know what the real Ten Commandments are (Exodus 34:11-26) because all of the stories in the Old and New Testaments illustrate one or more of the Ten Commandments in action. Some stories show the benefits of obeying them while others show the consequences for disobeying them. Once you understand that, you can read any story and quickly identify the applicable Ten Commandment. Try it. Consequently, the stories themselves don't have to make logical sense (most don't) because that is not their real purpose. Their purpose is to get the listener, or reader, to think about the relevant commandment and the point it is making.

If you are willing to do that exercise you will see what a wonderful job the story tellers and writers did in basing complex stories on a few simple ideas.