What does it mean when a person says they're spiritual but not religious?

@SW-User Yeah, but you're painting a broad brush, not accepting or understanding that some things in the spiritual world, and religion, are true. It matters which religion.

Which probably means you lack understanding and only a limited grasp on things that are true. Try expanding your mind.

Or ... you're another anti-religious nutcase, posing to be the rational one.

@SW-User prove one supernatural/superstition/mysticism/religion/spirituality trope, please

@SW-User I thought spirituality is connection with Nature and the Universe.

@SW-User Being Native American myself our spirituality is being connected with nature what's wrong with connecting with nature?

@Sneedville it's a very loose a vague term than can be literally shaped by anyone to mean anything they personally want it to mean because it's not objective

and one can LOVE nature without calling it being spiritual as well ... taking "I love nature" and calling it "spiritual" can end up down the path at something nonsensical like animism, for instance, when just simply saying you love nature is already sufficient, and it's not hard to convince most people that nature is very, very valuable without any spiritual crutches

moreover, when people begin to treat, say, trees as things with souls and worship them as deities, that's still a religion, even without any formal leadership organization, and still theism, just a less anthropomorphic variation

@SW-User Oh... back to that are we?

I'm not talking about superstition. I'm talking about faith. We'll get to the Resurrection shortly...

Do you understand God's purpose in salvation - he makes it pretty clear (read the Bible, it's pretty straightforward). He wants us on faith - but not blind faith, he's given us a massive amount of evidence - it's up to you to come to the right conclusion. Here's just a few:
1) the 2000 year history of salvation dating back to the Resurrection, and backed up by the shaping of history leading up to the culmination point. Nations rise and fall to meet the Lord's purposes.
2) the millions upon millions of people whose life is changed... changed... they are literally new people, when the Holy Spirit is in their heart.
.... a) missed all that did you?
3) How about miracles? - no evidence that any of that happened huh? Everyone is just hallucinating huh?
4) How about the Bible - the only Word of God actually supported by detailed archaeology.

But you want one piece of evidence?? How about the Resurrection - the most covered miracle of all time, highly documented, and with earth and empire changing circumstances by those ... who witnessed it.

How about modern science - if even one of the universal constants is slightly off, no life can exist.

But Hey... you do you... believe inanities about "superstition" and babble nonsense to others. All the while headed to the biggest "oh s***" moment at the end of it all.

You only have your lifetime to get this right.

@SW-User Now you're criticizing Native American spirituality and culture, a group of people who have been marginalized and discriminated and killed from their land?

🤦‍♀️ you do realize it's the same thing right? You're saying belief in Zeus is superstition, but the belief in YOUR preferred deity is a somehow elevated, superior notion called "faith" that is somehow mysteriously distinct from superstition?

Indeed, as you said ... "Oh... back to that are we?" ... look in the mirror, you are going in daft circles and projecting human concepts like faith onto deities (which by definition would have no need of such faulty, fallible constructs)

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@SW-User there are plenty of nice evangelists and missionaries that God uses to expand his Word. As for me... hmm... He uses me to slap down atheistic nonsense such as you have been babbling...

@SW-User So you're can't tell the difference between Zeus... and God who has the Bible as his Word.

Hmm... not very bright. And by the way your explanations are nonsense with no basis in reality.
To be expected I suppose.

Ok, I'm out. Things to do today.

@SW-User There's a difference between spirituality and religion, religion tends to be too conservative and have too many rules and it's too political and spirituality is more free and liberal and connects us more to the Earth and the whole universe, and see the whole Universe as spiritual and cares about the environment more than religion.

Nothing is really "supernatural" and everything is Natural and spiritual, everything is energy even matter. It cannot be created or destroyed even transformed, so death is really an illusion since energy can't be created or destroyed only reused, there's no heaven or hell only Energy that's being reused back into the Universe.

Clearly you cannot 🤣🙄🤦‍♀️

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@Peaceandnamaste Yeah that's true, but that's only because mankind is flawed. The concept of religion, which has doctrine and a body of knowledge, isn't of itself wrong.
I'm not a fan of worshipping Nature, which is created (and we do have responsibility for it), rather than the Creator. Too often that function as a distraction.

@SW-User What about non-theistic and non-dogmatic religion/spirituality?

@SW-User Religion divides and spirituality unites, religion creates racism and spirituality solves it, I rather be spiritual and seek Wisdom and not seek religious and political dogma.

Knowledge and Science is not complete without Wisdom. Everything is connected science and spirituality both agree that everything started from one source that we call the big bang.

Yes the Universe is also spiritual and physical at the same thing doesn't have to do with religion or a god.

@CopperCicada Yeah Buddhism and Jainism, Taoism is a nontheistic religion or philosophy school that doesn't have God or gods in it or any creation stories about the origin of the Universe.

@Peaceandnamaste no one is supposed to critique any given superstition because the holders of it may have been victimized by other people at some point in history
(perhaps with their own superstitions as well)?!?!?

You've got to be kidding ... these are clearly separate topics

@CopperCicada anything that departs from objective reality and into superstition (whether that is a deity or otherwise) is negative

You don't need superstition to validate a rational philosophy like do unto others as you would have them do unto you

@SW-User The first Nations and the indigenous should practice their own cultures and dances without Europeans laughing at them or criticizing them. And calling it a superstition doesn't help.

@Peaceandnamaste what about another indigenous person who recognizes superstition is BS laughing at superstitious indigenous people?

What about non-superstitious Europeans laughing at superstitious Europeans?

You're trying to force this into a geopolitical/ethnic/imperialism/colonialism box when it transcends that limitation

Tribal boundaries placed atop superstition make no difference one way or another

So toxic.

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@CopperCicada please explain how so, and how superstition is not toxic

Please explain how creating sand mandalas all day only to sweep them into oblivion prevents the human species from going extinct in the next century

@SW-User What is superstitious in sitting and just sitting?

@SW-User Meditation is healthy nothing is wrong about meditation it helps with mental health.

@CopperCicada you parsed what I wrote in whatever way you wanted ... are YOU saying they are superstitious, because I did not