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Did God Really Create Everything In Six Days?

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As for me and my brothers and sisters in Christ, we know and believe that His Word is the truth.

As for Skeptics, they need to believe that this is not true in order to fit it into their agenda. They believe that it took billions of years for all this to come into existence being that they claim that God doesn't live and His Word is not true. Yet, they have failed to produce any kind of evidence or facts to support what they believe. And yet, they instead, choose to bombard us with ridicule, mocking, and insults because they can't comprehend the one true God as an all powerful being who can create such a vast universe and an earth that can support life.

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.
The Gospel of John 1:1-5

Why can't skeptics support their claims; or rather, why do they choose not to support them? Are they ashamed of their belief system knowing that what they're believing is a lie? I have observed that when the skeptics are confronted with the truth, they run. They make up excuse after excuse as to why they run and then they start ridiculing us for what we know and believe is true. They bombard us with mocking thinking that this makes them better than us. In reality, all their ridicule and mocking makes them look like spoiled children with ignorance as their education. This is a highly illogical tactic in that it defeats their purpose and makes them foolish.

20For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.
Romans 1:20 & 21

Hatred has been known to distort the human mind and wisdom is replaced by foolishness. Skeptics and religious fanatics are a good example of that. God didn't create us to hate one another or to hate Him. He created us to love Him and to love one another. This was His perfect plan from the beginning and it will be His perfect plan in the end.
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[quote]Yet, they have failed to produce any kind of evidence or facts to support what they believe.[/quote]

...not true. You should look up "consilience" in the wikipedia, because the Universe has all kinds of hints which ALL point to a Universe *much* older than 5-6 ka.
Carazaa · F
@SomeMichGuy
They take their information and then some jump to conclusion. Their conclusion is false! Then people who are not scientists believe it because it serves their purpose. And other science researchers say they believe it to get research funding money. It is[i] not proven[/i], it is an [i]"assumption" [/i]from what they see.
The world looks older than it is. God made it to look old just like he made Adam and Eve to look older when they were one day old. They did not look like babies, but grown people. And then when God cursed the world because of the fall, it has deteriorated quickly.
@Carazaa No.

Your tedious rant about "jumping to conclusions" is just wrong. Science isn't like that.

It's odd that you keep claiming that, yet listen to the Oxford-trained mathematician-[i]cum[/i]-pastor who demonstrably cannot even correctly represent what the Bible says. You jump to conclusions based upon whether or not has some YT video.

But again you and the OP appear NOT to have done any study of actual Biblical scholarship which any true scholar would do...

The stuff you are spouting is actually recent (19th cent) "evangelical" nonsense. There was no problem with people of faith, incl. ministers, accepting dinosaurs, etc., until the anti-intellectual movement created a line in the sand about this.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@SomeMichGuy [quote]Your tedious rant about "jumping to conclusions" is just wrong. Science isn't like that.
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Science points to God because God is its Author. The Bible is God's Word because He wrote it. Man has tried to change history but can't do it. What happened has happened and is recorded in the Word of God. What will happen in the future will happen and is recorded in the Word of God. Truth is also established by God and is not owned by any individual. It's for all of mankind.
@GodSpeed63 If you believe science points to God, you should embrace the findings of science.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@Carazaa [quote]They take their information and then some jump to conclusion[/quote]
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Carazaa · F
@SomeMichGuy
You can choose to believe anything you want, but I believe the Bible. I am not taking any chances with my future. For me and my house we will serve the Lord.

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[b]Genesis 1:27
So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.

28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”

29 Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so.

31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day."[/b][/quote]
Graylight · 51-55, F
@Carazaa So I ask again... What makes the Bible the word of God? Because it says it is? Because other than hucksters selling their stories (good though they might be) to targeted crowds, I can't see any difference.

What's your tangible, reproducible, vetted and scientific proof the bible is the word of God?
Carazaa · F
@Graylight
I know God. He saved me!
He is my provider, He is my helper, He is my healer!
@Carazaa As I continually ask, [b]did Jesus burden us with this as a condition to being saved?[/b]

[big]No.[/big]

[b]So [u]PLEASE[/u] stop trying to tell others that [u]your[/u] views determine [u]their[/u] fate when Jesus did not.[/b]

You can go believe what you want, listen to fools, misrepresent science, and never get yourself grounded in ACTUAL Biblical scholarship, but stop telling others you have the answer and it includes all manner of things which Jesus did NOT say were necessary for salvation.

If you don't know about Nestlé-Aland...you should.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@Carazaa And that's great. I mean that truly and without judgment of any kind.

But it doesn't mean the collateral surrounding him isn't human propaganda.
Carazaa · F
@SomeMichGuy
I am just quoting The Bible and saying I believe it!
Please do me a favor and read your Bible and stop putting doubt in peoples minds what God's word says!
Good day!
Carazaa · F
@SomeMichGuy
[quote][b] Isaiah 46:10
I declare the end from the Beginning.[/b][/quote]
The Hebrew language is 3 languages in one and the first word of the Bible tells us the ending of History. "In the Beginning" in Hebrew is BERISHEET, and in that one word God tells us all of the Bible and its ending.
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Graylight · 51-55, F
@Carazaa The Hebrew language doesn't even translate properly into modern English. It's astonishingly lacking in specific terms needed to decipher meaning. Many Hebrew words may have 6 or 7 meanings, and it's left to the reader to interpret. 3,000 years of languages simply aren't explained so easily.
Carazaa · F
@Graylight If God told us we can know the ending from the beginning did he say that for no reason? No I believe he was giving us a clear message a child can understand that if we look at every word and every number he has for us has meaning in Hebrew.
@Carazaa Three languages in one?

And getting obsessed with one word is dangerous...and yet another yt vid...

Again, does Jesus require this of us? Does your salvation or mine depend upon it?
@Carazaa
[quote]If God told us we can know the ending from the beginning did he say that for no reason? [/quote]

Where does God say this?
Carazaa · F
@SomeMichGuy
[quote][b][b]Isaiah 46:9[/b]
9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,
10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:[/b][/quote]
Carazaa · F
@SomeMichGuy I want to know Hebrew to study each letter because each letter is important for meaning! Please watch the video above that I copied for you.
@Carazaa The passage from Isaiah does [b]not[/b] say that God is telling us that [u]we[/u] can know the ending from the beginning.

It says [u]He[/u] has, from the very beginning [of Creation, presumably] declared the end. In the obvious context of v. 10, He is referring to [u]His[/u] power to make the end, as well as the beginning, due to *being* God. (I.e , it is akin to the end of Job, where God rebukes Job by saying, essentially, "Where were *you* when *I* laid the foundations of Creation?")

It is speaking of [u]His[/u] power, not of [u]ours[/u].
@Carazaa

[quote]I am just quoting The Bible and saying I believe it![/quote]

No.

If you WERE only doing that, I would take no issue with what you post.

But you NEVER stop there. You are just like that Oxford pastor, mischaracterizing and misusing the Word, stretching it out of it's meaning, then demanding that *your* misreading is correct.

[quote]Please do me a favor and read your Bible[/quote]

I DO, and I check what you say, but you misrepresent the clear, obvious meaning of the verses you present.

[quote]and stop putting doubt in peoples minds what God's word says![/quote]

Then YOU please stop misusing the Word. By insisting that your misreading is right, you set yourself up as a false teacher. I am only asking you to do as you *claimed*--quote it, say you believe, AND STOP THERE.

[b]Time & time again, I have asked you

• Does what you demand people believe have ANY effect upon *your* salvation, or *my* salvation, or *anyone's* salvation, according to what Jesus says?

• If NOT, then WHY are *you* trying to burden others with MORE than what Jesus asks?[/b]

[u]Do you not see that, by trying to ADD to what Jesus sets as what is required, you are claiming authority greater than His?[/u]

What does the Bible say about *that*?

Stop trying to add to the Word!
@Carazaa

[quote]I want to know Hebrew to study each letter because each letter is important for meaning![/quote]

You are unable and unwilling to study traditional Biblical scholarship.

You misrepresent meaning.

So I fear your approach to ancient Hebrew will be similar (taking "meaning" from YT vids which agree with you, not learning that language).

Look up the rest of the quote, "A little learning is a dangerous thing".

[quote]Please watch the video above that I copied for you.[/quote]

OMG Another excruciatingly long video...trying to claim all of the Bible is in a single word... If the entire Bible is contained in one word, please show how every book is derived from that.

And please show where Jesus says or confirms this.

You believe EVERYthing you hear if it agrees with your predetermined meanings.

That is not reading to understand, that is selectively confirming your bias.

I suggest you start with solid resources, but esp. concentrate on the Gospels *first*. That would mean Greek, not Hebrew...and knowing about Nestlé-Aland, as I said before.
Carazaa · F
@SomeMichGuy I study the Bible for a few hours every morning before work, and a few hours after work. I love Gods word. There is nothing I love as much as reading and studying what God is saying! I am done listening to you rant, so have a good day!
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@SomeMichGuy @Graylight [quote]If you believe science points to God, you should embrace the findings of science.[/quote]

I do embrace them. I just don't embrace your world views that are trying to use it to fit your agenda.
@Carazaa I know that we often use "study" in the sense which you did.

But consider that the many misled "Christians" who think DJT is on the side of the One Who Is have gone down a similar path, listening to false teachers, their vids, etc.

I have only urged a few things:

[u]1) Represent the Word "as is", without further embellishment.[/u] Surely this is not abhorrent to God?

2a) Do not require that [u]others[/u] must believe [u]your[/u] interpretations to be saved. Surely that is not error, due to...

2b) Do not place on others a burden greater than that placed upon us by Jesus. How is this in error?

3) If you are serious about the Bible, ground yourself in Bible scholarship. If you are unfamiliar with the Anchor Bible products, etc., if you don't know why Jesus misquotes Scripture, if you don't know Nestlé-Aland...then perhaps you are getting bogged down in details without having framed the whole.

Saying that you should look to established scholarship is not making you follow me...but pointing you to existing resources.

I think your zeal is great, you seem to often go off the rails.
Carazaa · F
@SomeMichGuy Since Jesusalem has become a nation in our generation and all the other signs have only happened to this generation, and Daniels prophesy , and the Berisheet prophesy,is unfolding etc. we know Jesus will appear very soon in [i]our [/i]generation, therefore I want to encourage people that he is coming soon.

[big][b]"18 Therefore encourage one another with these words."[/b] 1 Thes 4[/big]

[b][quote] "13 Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. 14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words."

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