Evolution's Achilles' Heels

@whowasthatmaskedman [quote]Look Speedy. One either believes that "God Said" and theres an end to it, or one doesnt.. [/quote]

Learn to spell. You are right, people are entitled to their own beliefs but how far must they go before Truth is drowned out?

@GodSpeed63 I'm not sure. But you have not drowned it out yet. To quote the Holy Book of Python. "It's people like you what causes unrest".
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@GodSpeed63 [quote]people are entitled to their own beliefs[/quote]... but they’re not entitled to their own facts

@GodSpeed63 Can you explain why you don't criticise the errors in your fellow Christians' posts, please.

Or is it just your prejudices and favouritism showing through?

@Bushranger [quote]Can you explain why you don't criticise the errors in your fellow Christians' posts, please. [/quote]

Learn to spell. These scientist search for the truth in their testing instead of trying to make science fit their agenda the way Richard Dawkins always does.

@GodSpeed63 I dont have a lot of time for Dawkins either. I am not one of those Atheists who is anti god. If it gives you comfort to wait for the Great Pumpkin to ride out of the patch at midnight, so be it. Just dont insist I pray to it. or keep me awake at night with your noise.
Have your view. Just do it quietly and you wont hear from me. But dont claim what you have to back you up is proof or even evidence. Its faith and its yours and I dont share it.😷

@GodSpeed63 [quote]Learn to spell[/quote]

Learn that not everyone uses American English.

In fact, there are two distinct forms of English: the Queen’s English... and mistakes 😂

That will help you to learn that not everyone shares your views on magical entities. In fact, you’re pretty much on your own in that regard.

@GodSpeed63 Perhaps you can enlighten me on my spelling error. I'd be interested to see what it is.

I'm also wondering why you are talking about scientists. I was talking about the other Christians who post on here. The ones you don't complain about their spelling.

But while we are at it, I'd love for you to present a paper or article from one of these scientists you are so enamoured of that would qualify as a balanced and non-biased presentation. I've been trying to find one, but have been unsuccessful so far.

Along @whowasthatmaskedman, I'm also not a big fan of Dawkins, although I do like his writing style. Personally, I find him too evangelical and much prefer his very early presentations. But here's something you seem to require constant reminding of: there are no absolute authorities in science. Dawkins is, in my opinion, now a commentator, I'm not aware of any new research done by him, but I could be wrong. But scientific findings and opinions are challenged all the time. I'm sure there are physicists out there who are constantly trying to prove Einstein wrong, biologists who would love to find an alternative to the current theory of evolution. How many of your preferred scientists are trying to challenge the Bible? If a theory withstands challenges, it is obviously correct. If the Bible can't be challenged, is it because it's incapable of withstanding investigation? That's certainly what it sounds like. Have you noticed that the only people who use the term Darwinian Evolution are creationists? That's because many of Darwins ideas were found to be wrong, but not the underlying principles. No real scientist was worried about challenging Darwin or any other scientist, but creationists will never challenge anyone who agrees with their particular faith.

@Bushranger Very true. Personally, I dream of falsifying the Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection. Apart from the trip to Sweden, it would mean that the Theory would necessarily be replaced by an [i]even better[/i] Theory... but I’m not optimistic about it happening anytime soon

@newjaninev2 I was listening to 'The Science Show' an ABC radio series that's also on podcast. The presenter was interviewing a physicist who, if I remember correctly, was looking for gravity waves, something that would prove one of Einstein's theories. He asked her how she would feel if she ended up proving Einstein wrong. With obvious pleasure she said something to the effect of how wonderful that would be. Unfortunately, I can't remember all the details and, frankly, not all that keen to trawl through years of podcasts to find it.

@Bushranger Indeed. The scientific community spends most of its time trying to falsify its own findings and Theories... that’s the strength of science (nobody hates a scientist more than other scientists!)

However, in religion such efforts are called heresy, and the heretic is often summarily murdered. in that world, questions must never be asked, and answers must never be questioned. That’s why religion is a stagnant swamp where abject ignorance is celebrated as a virtue

@newjaninev2 [quote]The scientific community spends most of its time trying to falsify its own findings and Theories... that’s the strength of science (nobody hates a scientist more than other scientists!)[/quote]

So? What's the big deal about watching other scientists give their testimonies?

@GodSpeed63 Is that how you think science works? Do you think scientific knowledge is presented and challenged and examined in the same manner as a revivalist meeting?

Do you seriously think that a scientist gets up in front of a congregation of other scientists and declaims while the other scientists scream “testify, sister!!” and clap and gyrate and reinforce each other’s biases?

Thanks for the laugh, but scientific debate is more like a knife-fight against multiple opponents 😂

@GodSpeed63 The same question could be asked about watching creationists lying about science. The biggest difference being that people who do actual science can provide real, demonstrable evidence for their findings.

@newjaninev2 [quote] Is that how you think science works? [/quote]

These scientists do the same amount of work you do, they only disagree with your worldly views.

@GodSpeed63 Because of their worldly evidence?

@whowasthatmaskedman @newjaninev2 @Bushranger [quote] I'm not sure. But you have not drowned it out yet.[/quote]

You have yet to show that is true, otherwise, your wasting time on this thread like your friends are doing since they can't refute the video either.

@newjaninev2 [quote]Because of their worldly evidence?[/quote]

No, because they recognize the truth within the evidence that science has for them.

@GodSpeed63 So they feel that the evidence is best explained, consistently, completely, and coherently, by using whatever fiction is most convenient at the time?

In other words, if you can’t support your preconceived conclusion from the evidence, just make up a suitable story.

...and you have the temerity to call them scientists, when what they do is the absolute antithesis of the scientific method.

Ridiculous!

@GodSpeed63 If I were fluent in Russian, I might be able to refute it. But in the current situation you are correct, I'm unable to do so. Probably the only way you can succeed.

Oh yes, please learn to spell and to use grammar.

@newjaninev2 @Bushranger [quote]So they feel that the evidence is best explained, consistently, completely, and coherently, by using whatever fiction is most convenient at the time?[/quote]

Why should the Truth of God in science be fiction?

@GodSpeed63 they can't refute the video

oh, the video definitely exists... that can’t be refuted

The claims in the video, however, [i]can[/i] be refuted.

Specify which one you would like me to refute

@newjaninev2 Did you get to see the English version? I settled down to watch it when I had some time the other day, only to find it had been replaced by a foreign language version.

@GodSpeed63 [quote]Why should the Truth of God in science be fiction?[/quote]

1. Evidence

Demonstrable, falsifiable, evidence

2. Necessity

Compelling necessity

Without those, you’re offering a fiction

@Bushranger Wow, that’s a novel way to run away from one’s original claims!

It’s unfortunate that he chose to use a language from what is currently one of the world’s most despised societies 😂

But no matter, I’m sure that he’ll now specify the specific claims made that he feels cannot be refuted