Humans Evolved and That's That - DeBunked

@SW-User Who cares what the pope says? The pope is not a Christian, but a lying antichrist and the Catholic Church is a murderous, pedophile filled, Babylonian pagan cult in connection with the government, (hence why the pope meets with the president every year) to help usher in their totalitarian communistic One World government, one world religion and one world economy. We can trust the pope, though. He would never lie. Sure.

@SW-User Oh. I didn't know that. I had an impression that he is the representative of Christians all over the world.
But aren't your statements contradictory?

@SW-User You couldn't detect the sarcasm in my last statement?

@SW-User You’re not a Christian either, at least, not one that Jesus would recognize.

@LeopoldBloom well.. In that case even Jesus was not a Christian.. as Christianity evolved much later.

@in10RjFox Christian antisemitism makes no sense since Jesus was Jewish. But that’s different from modern fake Christians who worship Republican Jesus.

@LeopoldBloom According to the Bible and Jesus' Words Himself, I am a Christian. I think I'll listen to God's Word over a Christ rejecting heathen like yourself. I find it real funny when the world tries to tell us who Jesus is, with their remarks like, "You're not acting very Christlike" when they themselves aren't even believers and going against almost everything Christ said. And, uh, obviously Jesus was not a republican or democrat in any form or fashion. I detest both republican and democrat parties and view the left and right as a false paridigm, with as much of a difference as that between coke and Pepsi. Both of them being controlled by the same hand. Liberals, just like Republicans, will try to co opt Jesus and make them fit their narrow political view, like when they try to claim that Jesus was a socialist when He was also not a socialist. He said for individuals to help the poor, not to hire politicians to steal money from others to do so. I am against both parties doing this.

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Have you been taking your meds ?

@DocSavage Yes, I have been. A lot of red pills called the truth.

@SW-User
The container wouldn’t by any chance say “tic tacs “ on it , wold it.?

@DocSavage Impossible. Cinnamon tic tacs have been discontinued.

@SW-User
Cherry, or strawberry then. Assuming that it’s not from out dated stock.

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Sarcasm in religion is not a good idea, there more than enough people stupid enough to believe in it.

@DocSavage No. They're red pills of truth. Join the revolution. Leave the matrix. You can take one of these pills and see how far the rabbit hole goes or you can take the blue pill and stay in wonderland.

@DocSavage Wrong. Jesus Christ used sarcasm.

@SW-User Thank you, I didn't knew that. ...And Bible is believed to be the word of Jesus. So is it a mix of truth and sarcasm as well?

@SW-User The Bible is a mix of mythology, poetry, and historically-based fiction. And a lot of really bad advice that has led to untold suffering and bloodshed.

@SW-User You're a "Christian" if you believe Jesus died for your sins and rose from the dead three days later. Anyone who believes that is a Christian. But you're also supposed to make a token effort to emulate Jesus and follow his teachings, and you're not doing that.

Even as a "heathen," I probably know more about the Bible than you, and could run circles around you in apologetics. As for socialism, read Matthew 22:15-22.

@LeopoldBloom @LeopoldBloom How do you know that I'm not doing that? You don't even know me outside of this conversation and this is the only conversation we have ever had.

The fact that you're using Matthew 22 to support Jesus being a socialist shows you don't know very much about the Bible at all. Bad start, pal. Jesus wanted us as individuals to give to the poor of our own volition, but he never condoned the notion of hiring corrupt politicians to steal money from others to do so. Also, how in the world does rendering to Caesar unto Caesar have anything to do with socialism? Are you sure you aren't messing around with me at this point? You can't be this foolish.

You might want to stop now because the more you speak, the more you demonstrate you know nothing of the real Jesus of the Holy Bible and embarrass yourself, which is another reason why you have no place in telling someone whether they are or are not following Him. Also, another thing that demonstrates that you're an ignoramus acting like you know the Bible and don't is the fact that you think "emulating" Jesus is a Biblical concept. It isn't following Jesus is a biblical concept, but "emulating" Him is not. Let's look at the definition of emulation: effort to match or surpass a person or achievement, typically by imitation.

It is impossible for any of us to match and obviously surpass Jesus' achievements because He is God manifest in the flesh, perfect and sinless whereas we all fall short of the glory of God and are sinners.

Imitation is copying and another word for it is simulating. Imitation is often associated with faking something through copying. There's nothing good about that.

Following, however, is completely different than imitating, and is something that Jesus commands us to do. Following is not imitating or copying, but doing what he says to do and living for Him. To truly follow Christ means He has become everything to us. Everyone follows something: friends, popular culture, family, selfish desires, or God. We can only follow one thing at a time (Matthew 6:24). God states we are to have no other gods before Him (Exodus 20:3;Deuteronomy 5:7;Mark 12:30).

To truly follow Christ means we do not follow anything else. Jesus said inLuke 9:23, "Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross daily and follow me." There is no such thing as a "halfway disciple." As the disciples demonstrated, no one can follow Christ by the strength of his ownwillpower. The Pharisees were good examples of those who were trying to obey God in their own strength. Their self-effort led only to arrogance and distortion of the whole purpose of God’s Law (Luke 11:39;Matthew 23:24).


In Matthew 10:34–39, Jesus stated clearly what it means to follow Him. He said, "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn ‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’ Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it."

Jesus’ bringing a “sword” and turning family members against each other can seem a little harsh after words like "whosoever believes on Him shall not perish" (John 3:16). But Jesus never softened the truth, and the truth is that following Him leads to difficult choices. Sometimes turning back may seem very appealing. When Jesus’ teaching went from the Beatitudes (Matthew 5:3–11) to the coming cross, many who had followed him turned away (John 6:66). Even the disciples decided that following Jesus was too difficult the night He was arrested. Every one of them deserted Him (Matthew 26:56;Mark 14:50). On that night, following Christ meant possible arrest and execution. Rather than risk his own life, Peter denied that he even knew Jesus three times (Matthew 26:69–75).

@LeopoldBloom The Bible prohibits socialism. Many like you who know nothing of scripture cite Jesus’ words to “render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s” as an all-out endorsement of government taxation (Matthew 22:21; Mark 12:17; Luke 20:25). However, that is not what these words teach. The Jewish leaders were seeking to trap Jesus among the Romans (who required the tax) and the Jews (who opposed Romans taxation). Jesus outsmarted His opponents by making reference to Caesar’s picture on the coins—“Whose likeness and inscription is this?” (Matthew 22:20). The answer was “Caesar’s.” So Jesus responded, “Therefore render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s” (Matthew 22:21).

This was not a wholesale endorsement of Roman government, nor was this a discourse on the morality of taxation. Rather, Jesus actually endorsed property rights by distinguishing between that which belongs to Caesar and that which does not. Contrary to popular claims, Jesus was not a socialist.

All Forms of Socialism Are Theft

Central to the moral argument against socialism and quasi-socialism is the 8th commandment:

You shall not steal (Exodus 20:15; Deuteronomy 5:19).

This command teaches the concept of private property and forbids the taking of property from an innocent person. God added to this condemnation of socialism by prohibiting envy in the 10th commandment:

You shall not covet (Exodus 20:17; Deuteronomy 5:21).

God is a capitalist, which we know because God endorses private property. This is inferred from the 8th commandment. The prohibition of theft assumes that people own things. Of course, everything in this world belongs to God. Yet He has delegated control and responsibility of things to individuals. We call this private property rights.


Everyone understands this concept. No one likes others stealing their belongings, and they therefore do things to prevent theft, such as lock their door at night. It is also the case that every civilized society prohibits theft. People have property rights, and the government should protect such rights.

Yet this all breaks down for many people when the government gets involved. It is wrong for Bob to take a quarter of your income. But if Bob and his friends lobby the government, politicians pass legislation, and the government gives one quarter of your money to Bob, then all is right.

@LeopoldBloom

Two messages above ^^

But of course you don't understand any of this, because you are what the Bible calls the natural man and it says that the natural man cannot receive the things of the spirit. Meaning that the natural man cannot understand the Word of God. You cannot understand it according to the Bible itself and everything you write proves that. So, you should probably just stop now. I get that you're an angry little guy and need to feel better about yourself so you have to act like you know things when you don't, but just be honest with yourself. You don't know the Bible. And you show that more with every new comment you post.

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Once again. Narcissism. The by product of religion.

@DocSavage That isn't a response. He was the narcissistic one who acted like he knew the Bible when he doesn't. I merely corrected him, showing him to be wrong with the scriptures themselves. But it doesn't surprise me that you also think correction is narcissism, because in your subjective, morally relativistic and solipsistic universe, no one can be corrected because there is no such thing as right and wrong and no one is ever right. Everyone has their own reality tunnel and can just make stuff up.

If you told me the sky is red and I said no, it's blue, would you also call me a narcissist?

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Morality is a human concept, no god needed.
And evil couldn’t exist, unless god allowed it, if he created everything.

@SW-User So it turns out that you are a Calvinist, since you believe that i’n incapable of understanding the word of God.