Why do people insist that their belief is true and beliefs followed by others are false ?

@LadyGrace That's very concisely put👌. All points are valid and very few lines conveying a lot of meaning. Thank you. I just wish the last statement was true. Often that line of wish/don't wish has a very thin margin. It depends on the magnitude and type of force applied. Why it is a matter of worry is because it has significant consequences. It can make or break a person.

@SW-User Last statement? No one can force us to do or believe anything. We're in control. And yes...what some don't really understand, is that our eternal destination is our own choice. God doesn't make that choice for us. He won't. Notice in John 3:16-17, look what God said very carefully. He's not wanting ANY to miss heaven. None to perish. Verse 17 says Jesus didn't come to condemn the world. He came to save it. That was His sole mission. How will He save us and from what, exactly? From the condemnation and seperation from a Holy God, that sin brought on us. Not God. Sin always separates us from God. He said so in His Word. But there's a remedy for that, and not just any remedy will do, He said. That the world, through Jesus, God's Son, could be saved. That means it is not God that condemns us, but sin that is the one and only thing that keeps us separated from God in heaven. We all have it, not just one. What is the remedy? God told us exactly in His Word. No guessing. And it even tells us that Jesus came not into this world to condemn it, but only to save it...that whosoever believes and puts their trust in Jesus, shall.....not maybe....but shall be saved from the consequences and condemnation sin brought on us. And that Jesus forgives us all our sins and forgets them, restoring our fellowship with God, as we inherit everlasting life in heaven as one of His own children, through God's love, grace, and pardon of our sins. God cannot lie. He is perfect. It's up to us, if we want to believe Him and receive His blessings. How else does man propose we get to heaven? He sure can't get there by his own merit or bootstraps, because God said that's impossible. And say that's wrong. Say I'm wrong. It doesnt matter what I say. Not one bit. But it does matter when God tells us something. And He told His disciples before He went back to heaven, to be His spokesperson. To tell the world about Him, so they can be saved, as well. Not everyone reads the bible, He knew that. So Jesus told them to tell others what His standards are, so they would know, and not have to guess. Man cannot even make it past the moon. How does he think he'll find heaven? He doesn't even know how to get there, without Jesus' instructions. And even if he did find heaven, he wouldn't make it past the front gates, let alone the door, without meeting God's standards...not man's. Makes sense. But again...that choice of whom to believe in, is strictly up to us. If man wants nothing to do with God, curses and mocks Him, God won't stop loving him, but He will honor that man's decision. And that man's decision, is the only thing that will keep him separated from God, though He wanted to save him. God turns no one away. And yes...belief is cheap, and means nothing without commitment behind it. But Jesus' commitment to us was not cheap, by any means. He gave His best for us. He gave His life.

@SW-User I see what you're saying now, but we do have the ability to not allow others to force us on anything. Unless by gunpoint, or threat of life. But even then, we can decide which point of action we can take... not must take. That all depends on us...not chance or fate. We're either in control, or not. There's no in between.

@LadyGrace

@NativePortlander1970 You betcha! I'll take God's Word over man's, any day. You wanna laugh and make fun of that, go right ahead. The Bible says, "The fool says in his heart, there is no God."

@LadyGrace

@NativePortlander1970 So true. The Bible is the Word of God, infallible, and the Truth. Because He said so....not you or anyone else. You'll never be smarter than God, so laugh all you want. It just shows your immaturity.

@LadyGrace Only children and fools believe in fairy tales and imaginary friends.

@NativePortlander1970 Yada yada yada. Thank God for the block button. Your constant, childish following my posts just to criticize, is old and immature. Just another deadbeat troll. Bye now!

@LadyGrace Buh bye 🤣

@LadyGrace
I partly agree with you. That's why I said I wish all people have the wisdom and ability to make informed decisions that they do not allow anyone to force their belief or opinion on them. However mostly it is not the case. People are often made to feel vulnerable. The mentioned control doesn't operate necessarily in binary. Coming to the aspect of forcing ones opiniion I would say in the present world manipulation is as destructive as a gunpoint or threat of life.

@SW-User Threat is perception and can be wrongly taken. Let's just spell it out, shall we? It is clear you think I force my beliefs on others. I do feel sorry for those who read my posts, yet claim they still can't make up their own minds as to whether they wish to click on them, continue reading them, or ignore them. Such is the option for all readers for any post.

@LadyGrace

The understanding of this statement is simple and complex.
1.Let us tackle the simple case. Answer is No. If we consider this world as real, It is not a perception. If someone perceive something bad can happen it is a flag to be alert. Better be alert than be regretful.
2. Complex case : The whole life is an illusion. Our very existence is an illusion. If you believe in that theory I do agree with you that threat is a perception.


I think there is a misunderstanding. Most probably you had such interactions with some other user. We both never had any prior interactions with respect to belief. I do remember where I wished your relative a speedy recovery on one of your posts where you were asking for a prayer request. I responded in best interest. We never had any disrespectful communication. May be interactions with another user confused you.
But yes, I had a not so enjoyable conversation with another lady here. That exactly motivated me to write this post. Both hers and your view point on spiritual faith were similar. However you are far knowledgeable and mature than her. Though I do not necessarily agree with your position I appreciate the effort you put behind writing the replies. I understand and I appreciate that beacuse I put similar efforts on my reply. In the other case, the person forcing her belief hardly put any effort and was doing a copy/paste of some contents without herself not understanding the meaning. Forget about the humility part.

However I am happy that you brought this point up. This is a classic example to discuss belief and faith. Your perception of what I thought about you is a belief. And irrespective of what I say you may still continue to believe what you believe about what I think. That strengthened belief is nothing but faith. Now your belief and faith are true to your perception, however to convince me that your belief and faith is true and mine is false, you need to understand me. Same goes with God and spirituality. Sadly people tell others that their belief is true and others belief is false without even listening or understanding what other persons belief is and how significant their belief is. Based on such a belief that one consider is the only belief no one can ever take an informed decision and if at all one does, it's sheer stupidly.


I agree with you and I too feel sorry for them. You may ignore them because thinking about them won't add any value to you.


Please note: I still have to reply to your comment on another thread. I will do soon.