We should pray and forgive the Atheist on a daily basis [Spirituality & Religion]

@Elessar This is not your position.. You never came to this independently.. This is Epiuro's thoughts.. Not yours.. You simply latched onto this to help you justify your rejection of the Message of the LORD Jesus..

Oh and these boxes you want to force people to go through do not contain all possibilities.. They only contain possibilities that force a negative conclusion in regard to God.. Which is what you want because it helps your anti-Christ bias..

@Adstar Neither yours, none of you theists came to your positions independently, you've came to it when you were indoctrinated as children with some sacred text. On top of that, were you born in a different part of the world rest assured you'd be here defending another religion than your one which, I would bet, coincidentally is the most popular in your area.

That's a simplification of the paradox, you can surely add further boxes and we'll add further arrows. Then you group essentially identical but worded differently options and you get back to this scheme.

Trying to get around the paradox doesn't equate solving it (and none of you solved it in the past 2292 years), but nice try.

@Elessar

Yeah that's another falsity people like you have willingly embraced because it conforms to your bias.. I did not have Christianity indoctrinated into my head as a Child.. I became a Christian after a friend gave me a Bible to read in my early 20's So i became a Christian when i was around 23/24 years old.. So i don't fit your narrow minded view of Christians.. What other cooky cutter mass produced atheist statements are you going to make? It's been a very long time since i have seen an atheist actually think up an interesting new point.. The last 30 years has just been the same points over and over again from people who delude themselves into thinking that are intellectual because they know how to regurgitate other peoples thoughts..

The Paradox is easy to dispel.. God allowed evil to exist for a time so as to defeat it by demonstration..

So God can and shall bring an end to evil when the time is right..

And no an All powerful God would not destroy satan right away.. If that all powerful God wanted to demonstrate to the host of angels that satans claim to goodhood was unjustified and that Gods claim to Godhood was justified.. Yes God could have zapped satan on the spot but from then on would the heavenly host of angels believed God was justified as being the one and only God or would they simply have believed that God was unjustified but simply ended satans challenge by use of violence again him.. God does not want us ( angels and humans ) to follow Him as God simply because he has the power to violently destroy us if we don't.. God wants as many as possible to willingly follow Him as God because we admire and love his awesome wisdom and love.. God created this universe and us human beings as a stage for this great controversy to be solved by demonstration.. And through the Loving and wise act of the LORD Jesus on the cross Jesus has demonstrated How he overcame the satanic sabotage of Gods creation by reconciling and redeeming His creation from the curse that satan enticed out ancestors into accepting..

Epicuro at lest has an excuse for his ignorance which was based on a lack of knowledge.. But you and people like you have no excuse because the message of the Gospel has been made available to you and your fellow atheists.. Epicuro never read the good news of the Gospel.. and thus He never rejected it..

@Adstar Good (or bad) for you, but rest assured that you don't represent even the 1% of the theists. Forbid the teaching of religions in young people (I myself have been subjected to it so don't try to convince me it doesn't happen in an indoctrination-like fashion) and you'll see how quickly the popularity of all major cults would drop.

If he's all powerful he doesn't need to wait for anything, nor he does need to demonstrate anything, he could've created us with said demonstration already forged in our minds. No, it doesn't solve the paradox at all. It's just one of the branches that got minimized out of the scheme above.

Also, how convenient, waiting for a time that never happens. Just like exempting the creator of a universe that necessarily must be the product of an intelligent design from creation himself.

Tell me about Narcissism. Not even teenage Instagram influencers...

Epicurus was far more knowledgeable and sharp than you and all your ilk *combined*.

@Elessar
See your incapable of comprehending what i write.. Your blocked not by me but i believe you are blocked from being able to understand from God..


Humanizing God is another thing people without wisdom do.. They cannot see God as an actual God they can only see him as another created being.. God's will is not based on human narcissism. He wants us to admire and embrace Him because He can then Justifiably Redeem us justly.. He wants the angels to do the same to save them from the eternal lake of fire..

He wants us to acknowledge and worship Him as God because He is the only One who has the perfect attributes to be God.. No one else can be a god not satan not any of the other created angelic beings and definitely no human being can be gods.. It is in our eternal interest for God to be God and for no other to attempt to take on godhood because all others can only but fail just like satan.. So no God does not suffer from faults like narcissism he wants us to follow Him because that is whats best for us and the Heavenly angelic host..

LOL don't make a god out of Epicurus he was a mere faulty mortal just like you are..

@Adstar What you're trying is called "climbing on mirrors" over here. There isn't much to comprehend, you have no answer on why an all-powerful entity would have to demonstrate anything (without losing it's "all-powerful" status if that was really needed).

You confuse "wisdom" with "being brainwashed". Common logics evidently doesn't apply to salty theists like yourself. We live in a society that despises narcissism in people, yet according to you I should condone it in a deity, and not even call it like that.

2000 years from now people will study Epicurus, ~50 years from now when you'll likely be bones or ashes everyone will have forgotten about you (and me, eh; don't take it personal). Says what needs to be said about him.

@Elessar

I did answer and give a good reason but either you simply don't want to accept the answer i gave or you have been blocked from understanding the answer i gave.. I said that God wants to redeem the angels and humanity from the eternal consequences of the satanic rebellion and to JUSTLY do that ( You see a perfect God cannot turn a blind eye to evil ) People need to acknowledge Gods will as true and Good and acknowledge their need for His forgiveness.. God wants to save as many as He possibly can and He will do so..


I don't think so.. We shall probably see each other after death in eternity and you will remember me and i will remember you.. Sadly i doubt we shall both be in the same place nor will we be experiencing the same experiences..

@Adstar No, you haven't, you've tried to evade the paradox but are still fully within it. There isn't much to understand, it's plain and simple logics, just like mathematics it doesn't allow for magic. Either he's all powerful (and, by definition, wouldn't need to demonstrate anything if so) or he's not.

You'll rot six feet under ground, just like me and everyone else. Feel free to waste your life thinking you'll get a better one after this one, you're entitled to your own dreams and delusions, just don't expect others to follow you in your ideals.

@Elessar Nothing new to reply to in your last post.. You're blind..

Such is life..

@Adstar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

@Elessar Yeah i know about projection.. You do it a lot.. projecting negative qualities upon people who believe in God..

@Adstar You don't seem to understand it actually. You've hijacked my comment attempting to evade the paradox, providing no solution and calling me "blind" when I've pointed out your f*ck up. You can now disappear, as you evidently have nothing useful to add to the discussion.