Replacing Evolution [Spirituality & Religion]

@jackieash [quote]So....if god's word is truth, and the word of man is a lie, and if god made man in its own image, that is proof god did not make man in his own image. God then, invented lies.[/quote]

Wrong again. God's Word is true and He did not create sin in mankind but did give us free will.

@jackieash man was created body soul and spirit. In the image of God. Man had free will. Man was deceived by the father of lies, Lucifer. Man made a choice to follow a lier and left what God had for him.

@Baremine [quote]man was created body soul and spirit. In the image of God. Man had free will. Man was deceived by the father of lies, Lucifer. Man made a choice to follow a lier and left what God had for him.[/quote]

You got that right, brother.

@GodSpeed63 Oh, that "free will" thing again. Free will as long everyone does what it wants, or else! Not much "free will", is there?

@jackieash yes the choice is yours. The bridge is out. Continue going down the road and go off the bridge and die or turn around and live. It really isn't rocket science. Accept and put your faith in Jesus Christ and what he did at the cross and live or reject what he did and spend eternity in Hell. He threw you a life preserver. You either take hold of it or refuse to. It is your choice. Live or die.

@Baremine That doesn't make sense. Where did "lucifer" come from? How did it get into the "perfect garden" and why? Surely, free will comes from having a choice of two or more options? If god made man in its own image, and gave man "free will", what was the other option? If "lucifer" offered the choice, that means lucifer invented free will, because there was that other option. And who says lucifder's option is the wrong one when god didn't give that option. That also means lucifer is an omnipotent being.

@Baremine I won't spend eternity either in "heaven" or "hell". I'll be part of a sapling tree when I die.

@jackieash your choice. Remember your choice when you stand before Jesus Christ.

That won't happen. Partcularly as you make it sound like a tyrannical dicator.

@jackieash [quote]Oh, that "free will" thing again.[/quote]

Yes, free will. You have the right to choose between right and wrong, truth or lie, good or bad. You choose the former, you're living, you choose the latter, you may be walking around but you're as dead as a beaver hat. That is your free will.

@jackieash [quote]That won't happen.[/quote]

Are you sure about that? If so, where's your support? FYI, being a judge doesn't make one a dictator. Jesus Christ will judge the living and the dead according to their deeds in this life.

@GodSpeed63 That is just it, though, isn't it? None of us will know because we will all be dead. Those who think will be "judged" worthy of "heaven" may very well be in for a nasty shock. Especially those who hide their crimes behind a priest's tunic.

@GodSpeed63 you will be judged. The ones who accepted Jesus Christ and what He did for us at the Cross will be judged on Christ's sinless life as his blood cleansed us. The rest of the world will be judged on their works which will not add up to God's standard. "For ALL have sinned and come SHORT of the Glory of GOD." None can hide behind a priests tunic. The only place to hide your sins is under the shed blood of Christ. If I sell you something and I say I want US dollars cash you can't pay with anything else. It isn't acceptable. Not euros, bitcoins or credit card. Same with covering your sins. Only the shed blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth you of all sin.

@jackieash [quote]That is just it, though, isn't it? [/quote]

No.

[quote]None of us will know because we will all be dead.[/quote]

According to the Word of God, we will know.

[quote] Those who think will be "judged" worthy of "heaven" may very well be in for a nasty shock.[/quote]

Why? You haven't proven a single claim since I've known you.

[quote] Especially those who hide their crimes behind a priest's tunic.[/quote]

Nothing is hidden from God.

@jackieash [quote]That also means lucifer is an omnipotent being.[/quote]
Well, He did manage to thwart "almighty god's" perfect plan with only Eve's assistance. I supect He was more than capable of doing it unaided though.
nemA ;)

@Baremine [quote]Remember your choice when you stand before Jesus Christ.[/quote]
Not going to happen. Remember your choice when you stand before Odin at the Doors to Valhalla trying to explain yourself to Him. Good luck, you'll need it!

@Sharon go ahead and follow your demon. You are deceived.

@GodSpeed63 You haven't proven a single claim since you've been here. Just one lie after another.

@Baremine [quote]go ahead and follow your demon. You are deceived.
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I leave you to follow your imaginary friend. It is you who are deceiving yourself but you're not fooling anyone else.

@Sharon try reading 1 cor. Chapter one with an open mind.

@GodSpeed63 As you say when you are asked to prove your stance : "I don't have to, god does", I can equally say "I don't have to...teams of biologists, chemists, ecologists, virologists, astrophysicians do".

@Baremine I have, that's how I know it, and the rest of the bible, is all BS. If you read it with an open mind you'd reach the same conclusion but your mind is already made up.

@GodSpeed63 You are casting judgement. Which is not your role. For that, you will be judged harshly...by your god. That wouldnt scare me, because I don't believe "heaven" and "hell", but to the faithful.....

@jackieash by their works ye shall know them.

@jackieash [quote]You are casting judgement.[/quote]

Look to yourself first before you look to someone else. You're passing judgement on others which is not your role.