Replacing Evolution [Spirituality & Religion]

@hippyjoe1955
No one believes or claims that humans are descended from rocks. Creationist turd Kent Hovind uses it. But no one has ever claimed it.

@DocSavage Actually evolutionists do believe humans descended from inanimate material (rocks) Nice of you to show your foolishness.

@hippyjoe1955
From chemicals that formed, not the rocks. We are star dust, but there is more to the process than soaking a couple of stones in water overnight .Creationist like to trivialize the actual science , in the belief that a invisible, magic sky genie is a more sensible answer.

@DocSavage Where did the chemicals come from? Rocks. Do try to keep up. At least pretend to keep up.

@hippyjoe1955
You have iron in your blood , where do you find iron ? In rocks . Humans are a carbon based life form., where do you find carbon ? In rocks. But humans are not made of stone or iron are they ? There’s more to it. The elements are there, but they are only part of the sum total. However, if being the decedents of a mud pie and a transgender clone is your thing, knock yourself out.

@DocSavage I don't believe in abiogenesis. I believe in a loving Creator who took great care in designing each and every part of our being. Fantastic bit of work. So much more reasonable than our ancestor was a rotten rock in a mud puddle.

@hippyjoe1955
I like to believe I’m the product of millions of years of fine tuning by evolution. Believe whatever makes you happy. But there some people who actually like to find out the way things actually work. As they say : science doesn’t give a shit what you believe.

@DocSavage which is why I stopped believing in evolution. The science didn't back it up. My belief in evolution was based on faith not science. I switched sides based on science.

@hippyjoe1955 [quote] I switched sides based on science.[/quote]

Amen, brother, amen. Science is a creation of God and not the other way around.

@hippyjoe1955
It’s the single most supported theory in all science. What part do you consider so far off that creationism becomes more viable?

@GodSpeed63
Again, what part of it in your opinion makes it not work ? You have fossil evidence, genetic evidence, DNA, the flu shot you get every year is based on the science. You see it in every living creature. Different species are all evidence of evolution. What part of that science is there to question ?
I will give you the benefit of the doubt that, you actually know something of what you’re talking about. But you can at least give a reason behind the claim.

@DocSavage Actually it is not supported by science at all. It is supported by self appointed experts who refuse to look at evidence in a clear and objective manner. Ask any body who has dared to question their orthodoxy. They have even gone so far as to take the impossible and multiply it by infinity to try to explain their non-science science.

@DocSavage [quote]You have fossil evidence, genetic evidence, DNA, the flu shot you get every year is based on the science. [/quote]

That's right, and it all points to God. The fossil evidence shows no transitional forms, genetic evidence, the code in DNA, even the flu shots were all designed and not come about by accident.

[quote]Again, what part of it in your opinion makes it not work ? [/quote]

It never happened which is why evolution will never work in science. It takes more faith for you guys to believe that we just popped in out of thin air than for us to believe that we were all created by God.

[quote]What part of that science is there to question ?[/quote]

The integrity of its scientists.

[quote]I will give you the benefit of the doubt that, you actually know something of what you’re talking about. But you can at least give a reason behind the claim.[/quote]

Thank you for giving me the benefit of the doubt but I don't claim anything, just stating facts.

@DocSavage Actually there is a real paucity of fossil evidence of anything beyond there have been whole species of animals that are now extinct. As for genes they can mean anything you want them too. After all if there is a common function wouldn't there be a common design as created by a common Designer?

@GodSpeed63
Stating facts from whom ? I was wrong to give you the benefit of the doubt. You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.
There are thousand of transitional fossils on record. Scientist do not rely on faith. You can not peer review faith. Faith can not predict results. Facts are judged on evidence and never on faith. The integrity of the science is in the evidence that has been shown repeatedly to have predictable, and consistent results.
No scientist would consider god as part of the equation. Because the very concept of god, is unpredictable, and untestable . Your “facts” are nothing more than creationist nonsense.

@hippyjoe1955
And if there isn’t a common designer, wouldn’t similarities show a biological relationship between species? That is what evolution tells us. The similarities come from a common ancestor, not a designer. Genetics supports this. If there is a designer, then the end results still make humans nothing more than upgraded monkeys .which is what evolution also says. You’re just giving the credit to a god, that you can’t show even exist.

@DocSavage The point is that a common Designer would use the same design over and over and over again. Why would He reinvent the wheel. He would simply make the wheel different for each application. The problem with evolution is you can't get it going.

@hippyjoe1955
You’re suggesting that a designer has a purpose or reason for each function. A fish swims under water. It has gills to breath with. A whale swims underwater, it doesn’t have gills to breath with, it has lungs. The two share a similar design. Both spend their entire existence in the water. Why the difference ? If one is better suited than the other for ocean life, why change the design ?
Basic evolution says that whales evolved from land animals over time. Which is why they still have lungs. That makes sense. What’s god’s explanation ?

@DocSavage [quote]There are thousand of transitional fossils on record.[/quote]

Where?

[quote]Scientist do not rely on faith.[/quote]

They have to just like with us. Scientists see the evidence and the facts and still get them wrong. I have other videos on here that show the human cell to be designed and not put together by chance. I still get arguments there but it's still shows that it was created by God and not by random chance.

[quote]Faith can not predict results[/quote]

Faith can move mountains.

[quote]Facts are judged on evidence and never on faith. The integrity of the science is in the evidence that has been shown repeatedly to have predictable, and consistent results. [/quote]

And scientists still gets them wrong.

[quote]No scientist would consider God as part of the equation. [/quote]

Then they have a lot of guess work ahead of them to no avail.

[quote] Because the very concept of god, is unpredictable, and untestable . Your “facts” are nothing more than creationist nonsense.[/quote]

Where's your evidence to support what you say is true?

@DocSavage variety

@DocSavage Does that question even make sense to you? If you are a Creator what would keep you from making an air breathing mammal live in water? Yes gills work and so do lungs. The Creator explanation certainly makes more sense for that than evolution. Air breathing animals tend to die if immersed in water.

@GodSpeed63 interesting"conversation" though as for no scientist guess Newton, George Washington Carver, Einstein, Galileo, et al aren't scientists. Oh wait YES THEY ARE, oops

@GodSpeed63
The scientist you claim got it wrong. They actually presented their results to peer review. Other scientists where able to confirm the results. Science has very strict standards. All claims are subjected to rigorous testing. You fail, that’s it.
What standards do creationist have ? What evidence have they presented for testing. And what evidence have they got that passed those test ? Have any of them done any research, lab work, or study on them ?
You say the scientists got it wrong ? Why would anyone just take your word for this ?
It’s not just a matter of faith. We live in a world where facts can be reviewed.
You can look it up yourself. Evolution has been observed both in the lab and in the wild.
Let’s see a genuine god creation happen. One which can be observed and proven to be the work of god.
P.S. “Faith Can Move Mountains “ two hands with tools can do more than a thousand hands folded in prayer any day of the week.

@DocSavage If you think 'peer review' is any more that 3 drunken buddies betting you are safe riding your bicycle over the snake river canyon I have some tropical property for sale in Northern Saskatchewan for sale. Peer review is a scam.

@hippyjoe1955
And religion isn’t ? Out of curiosity, how do you go about deciding what’s true and what’s bullshit ?
Your point of view seems to favors creationism . You seem to have little or no faith in science or the process that oversees it. Yet despite your opinion the process continues, and science continues to provide positive results. Yet you deny the results that reject your faith, ignore the evidence and sneer at those who do the actual work.
You benefit from those results, the science has made the world a better place for the most part. People live longer and better than in any other time in history.
So what’s your secret ? What makes you so sure it’s a scam ? I have confidence in things that have proven effective repeatedly. Why do you have such little faith in something you get so much from ?