Do you know that many Bible scholars believe that the 7 year" Great Tribulation" might start this year 2021, and the rapture could happen any time? [Spirituality & Religion]

@REMsleep Yes i agree the Bible makes it clear no one will know the day..

But the same Bible also declares that followers of Jesus will know the times.. They will see the signs set out by Jesus and the prophets and they will know their redemption is near..

@Adstar Yes I agree when I said that it is appropriate to understand when prophecy is being fufilled but not charting dates.

@REMsleep Nowhere does it say that. In fact it says search out a matter and that day will [b]not [/b]overcome you like a thief. And In the book of Daniel it says [b]"Seal up this book until the end" [/b]

@Adstar Finally you say something I can agree with 😆

@REMsleep [quote]pinpointing dates is wrong [/quote]
A prophecy unlimited by time is worthless.

@Carazaa
Matthew 24:35-36 “Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words shall not pass away.But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.”Jesus Christ.

The list of failed predictions have been countless. It is reckless to continue to know what the Bible clearly states that we cannot know.

@Sharon I do not agree. See my statement above. In the bible Sarah wanted a baby and her husband Abraham was prophesied to become the father of "many nations".
God had promised that Sarah would be a mother but year after year Sarah was barren and Abraham getting so old.
God did not give her a time but obviously once she passed her fertile days she knew it wasn't going to happen.
So Sarah arranged for Abraham to take on the servent girl Hagar as a wife for the sake of getting Abraham a son.
Look at the mess that she made and after all of that she finally became pregnant when all thought it was impossible.
Man's prediction would surely have said that once fertility time stops then pregnancy is impossible.
God never told Sarah that she would have the baby in her youth at a normal time frame.
But God did make her a promise.
Prophecy without dates are not meaningless.

@REMsleep OK, I prophesy that you will win the lottery. Now, if at some unspecified time in the future, you win some small prize in some lottery, by your argument my prophecy will have been fulfilled. :) Until such time, it will simply be "yet to be fulfilled".

@REMsleep [b]The Day of the Lord
…3While people are saying, “Peace and security,” destruction will come upon them suddenly, like labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. 4But you, brothers, are not in the darkness so that this day should overtake you like a thief. 5For you are all sons of the light and sons of the day; we do not belong to the night or to the darkness.…
1 Thes. 5: 4
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@Sharon You are correct and thats why people make so many false Biblical predictions.
You'd have to take it up with God himself on why he wasn't more specific down to the date and time but facts are that the Bible is not but it has prophesied many things that were intricate or unlikely or impossible at the time of the prohetic warning which have come to pass or are in process of coming together now.

@REMsleep God was clear that The Book of Daniel would be sealed until the end. It is unsealed.

@REMsleep [quote]many false Biblical predictions.[/quote]
Many old works of fiction, especially science fiction, have referred to future events that have come true. The bible is no different in that respect. A specific prediction, such as "you will win £12 000 350.55 on next week's UK lottery", coming true would strongly suggest considerable predictive powers. The vague, often metaphorical, open ended, predictions in the bible don't prove anything. Sooner or later, some event will occur that can be matched to an interpretion of one (or more) of the biblical predictions, it's just a matter of time. Until such time one can simply claim it's "yet to be fulfilled".

[quote]You'd have to take it up with God himself[/quote]
I would if there were any evidence it existed. I tried to contact it when I was much younger but never got a reply. Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy never let me down though.

@Sharon Whats the point in discussion if you want to resort to being rude making snide jokes about God being equal to The Tooth Fairy?
I try very hard to keep my responses non insulting because my goal here is honest conversation which can lead to greater understanding no matter our positions.

@REMsleep [quote]being rude making snide jokes about God being equal to The Tooth Fairy?[/quote]
Pointing out a simple fact is neither being rude nor making snide comments. From a purely impartial point of view, what [b]objective[/b] difference is there between the Tooth Fairy, the christian god, or any other deity or mythical being?

I'm not a hypocrite who applies double standards. I apply the same standard to all mythical beings. Absent any evidence to the contrary, that's really all gods are.

Various christians here have claimed that their prayers have been answered by their god. Members of other religions have told of their prayers being answered by their gods. In many such cases, the answer came in the form of another person performing some service that was prayed for. They then usually claim that their god directed that other person.

In the same way, children ask Santa Claus for for a particular present. When they receive that present, it obvious to them that Santa has answered their prayers. Those of us who do not beleive in Santa will point out the present came from the child's parents. Those of us with faith in Santa can claim that the spirit of Santa directed the parents to provide that present. How does that really differ from the way christians' claim their god answers prayers?