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The Delusion of Atheism [Spirituality & Religion]

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The main delusion of atheism is that its followers believe that it exists.

They are deluded into believing that no gods exist, yet they have their own gods that they worship and put their faith in.

They can't understand that there is only one true God, Yahweh, who has revealed Himself to mankind through His Spirit and through His Word, yet they try their darnedest to discredit Him and His Word instead of taking time to understand Him and His Word.

They keep claiming they have evidence for their type of science that evolution happened instead of God, Yahweh, creating the heavens and the earth but fail to produce evidence so far. They, however, have shown evidence that intelligent design happened instead but still claim it's evolution.

They mock, ridicule, and insult hoping that these actions will set them above those who believe, on the contrary, the opposite happens and their mocking, ridiculing, and insults fall back on them. Plus, these actions prove that they have no such evidence to support their claims in that evolution happened or that God, Yahweh, doesn't live.

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Human1000 · M

Do you feel the same about the delusion of not believing in astrology?

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windinhishair · 61-69, M

@Human1000 Or the delusion of not believing in phrenology?

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@Human1000 @windinhishair [quote]Do you feel the same about the delusion of not believing in astrology?[/quote]

Depends on whether the content is true or not.

Human1000 · M

@GodSpeed63 The point is that you would find it ridiculous for astrologists to try to shift the burden of proof on those who don’t believe in astrology. 🙄. We are silent on the subject except to make these points. You guys are the ones with the books, rituals, feuds, legal exceptions, anti-research positions, etc. And on top of it all, you insist we prove it’s not true? So absurd.

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@Human1000 [quote]The point is that you would find it ridiculous for astrologists to try to shift the burden of proof on those who don’t believe in astrology.[/quote]

Why would I find that ridiculous? Astrology is the study of the stars and the planets and the Creator of them both.

Bushranger · 70-79, M

@GodSpeed63 [quote]Astrology is the study of the stars and the planets and the Creator of them both.[/quote]

Are you sure about that?

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@Bushranger [quote]Are you sure about that?[/quote]

I'm certain of it.

Bushranger · 70-79, M

@GodSpeed63 Perhaps you should look up the definition of astrology.

Bushranger · 70-79, M

@GodSpeed63 Have you looked it up yet?

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@Bushranger [quote]Perhaps you should look up the definition of astrology.[/quote]

I did. Maybe it's about time you looked it up.

Bushranger · 70-79, M

@GodSpeed63 And you still think astrology is the study of stars and planets?

Bushranger · 70-79, M

@GodSpeed63 Tell you what, I'll give you a bit of help: https://skyandtelescope.org/astronomy-resources/whats-difference-astrology-vs-astronomy/

Bushranger · 70-79, M

@GodSpeed63 Did you look at that site?

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@Bushranger [quote]And you still think astrology is the study of stars and planets?[/quote]

What do you think those celestial bodies consist of? I can't look at the site because you didn't do it right. You're supposed to copy the URL and then paste it on here so I could go to it.

Bushranger · 70-79, M

@GodSpeed63 I can see the link and it works, but I'll post it again for you: https://skyandtelescope.org/astronomy-resources/whats-difference-astrology-vs-astronomy/

But failing that, just Google astronomy vs astrology. Here's a hint, one of them is actual science.

I know what celestial bodies are made of. But can you show me the bible verse that describes them accurately?

Bushranger · 70-79, M

Does anyone else have problems with the link?

Sharon · F

@Bushranger That link works fine for me. I expect Godspeed doesn't know how to use it because it's not to a christian creationists' site.

Bushranger · 70-79, M

@Sharon Or he was just lying.

Sharon · F

@Bushranger [quote]Or he was just lying.[/quote]
Certainly a strong possibility, especially if he's found it proves him wrong.

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@Bushranger [quote]I know what celestial bodies are made of.[/quote]

If you know what celestial bodies consist of then why are you asking me about them? Paul's journey to Rome is one the accounts of men using the celestial bodies as a guide to travel to their destinations. Don't you know that sailors use celestial bodies to help guide them to their destinations?

Bushranger · 70-79, M

@GodSpeed63 What we have here is an example of you trying to divert attention from the fact you were wrong. I questioned your understanding of astrology, you are the one who asked me if I knew what celestial bodies are made of. I asked you to show me where in the bible the structure and composition of the celestial bodies is explained. The best you could come up with is Paul's use of them for navigation.

I take it you either looked at the site I linked to, or actually looked up the definition and realised you were wrong. Just admit it, your world won't end if you do. Actually, it might gain you a modicum of respect.

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@Bushranger [quote]What we have here is an example of you trying to divert attention from the fact you were wrong.[/quote]

The fourth day of creation. Read it. What I've shown you were that men understood about the celestial bodies and used them to chart their course. Even though the term, celestial bodies, is not found in the Word of God, they're definition is.

Bushranger · 70-79, M

@GodSpeed63 [quote]Even though the term, celestial bodies, is not found in the Word of God, they're definition is.[/quote]

That definition being?

Early people may have known how to navigate and determine seasons by the stars, but that in no way proves they had knowledge of anything other than positions and progression.

Now, tell me the difference between astrology and astronomy. Perhaps then you will understand your error.

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@Bushranger [quote]That definition being?[/quote]

I already told you, weren't you paying attention?

Bushranger · 70-79, M

@GodSpeed63 So you're going with lights in the sky, then. Sol is just a light and not a big ball of hydrogen and helium.

But you haven't explained the difference between astrology and astronomy, yet. Are you capable of doing so?

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@Bushranger [quote]But you haven't explained the difference between astrology and astronomy, yet. Are you capable of doing so?[/quote]

Don't you know the difference? Why do you need me to tell you? Tell me something, since we're subject, how does a star create itself scientifically?

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