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WILL SCIENCE DISPROVE GOD? [Spirituality & Religion]

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You know where I stand on this question.
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newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
“DNA contains information”

Yet the term ‘information’ is not defined in this indoctrination video.

Let’s define it now, and see how the claims about information stack up.

[i]Information is anything that reduces uncertainly[/i]

In biological systems that reduction in uncertainty is achieved by using tight, highly-localised constraints on possibilities [i]i.e.[/i] a process occurs in a certain way because it can do nothing else.

Let’s now examine the implications of that, shall we, Godspeed?
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@newjaninev2 Oh, I see they’re trying to use the sophistry around ‘fine-tuning of the universe’ 😀

What trivial nonsense!

That claim comes down to saying that if the universe were not the way it is... it would be different.

Wow, major revelation!

Tell me, Godspeed, what sort of a slack-jawed moron would fall fo that?
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@newjaninev2 "What caused the universe to begin?”

Well, it’s pointless to say it was a magical entity, because that means that the magical entity must have been more complex that the universe, which also leaves of the question of what caused that super-complex magical to begin, which means that there must have been a super-duper magical entity, which also leaves the question of... well, you see the problem, yes?
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@newjaninev2 Hey Godspeed, this stuff is hilarious! What else do you have?
@newjaninev2
Obviously you are going to name my Holy God “a super magical being” what a slack jaw use of reductionism for something you can’t conceive. Please don’t use your explanation of the “big bang as “well it inflated and then it expanded” it makes you look very nontechnical and actually a bit ignorant of science! 😂😂😂😂 kmslmao
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@newjaninev2 [quote]Let’s now examine the implications of that, shall we, Godspeed?[/quote]

DNA resembles a language in many uncanny ways, as though a supremely intelligent Author and Life-Giver left His indelible message in every living thing.
The Letters of a Language

Using different combinations of four basic units, called nucleotides, DNA molecules can store all sorts of information, just like the dots and dashes of Morse code, or the binary numbers in computers.

The four nucleotides are combined into codes for twenty chemicals known as amino acids. By rearranging these twenty “letters of the genetic alphabet,” God designed the language so that it could produce all the proteins that living things need—humans alone have over 100,000 proteins.

Similarly, English speakers can combine the letters of the alphabet into any words they need—now numbering hundreds of thousands.
The Letters of a Language

When it comes to storing massive amounts of information, nothing comes close to the efficiency of DNA. A single strand of DNA is thousands of times thinner than a strand of human hair. One pinhead of DNA could hold enough information to fill a stack of books stretching from the earth to the moon 500 times.

Although DNA is wound into tight coils, your cells can quickly access, copy, and translate the information stored in DNA. DNA even has a built-in proofreader and spell-checker that ensure precise copying. Only about one mistake slips through for every 10 billion nucleotides that are copied. If only our word processors were that good!
Same But Different
Fingerprint

Interestingly, any two humans are 99% identical at the genetic level. A mere 1% makes up the many differences we see among people throughout the entire world.

Even if two beings have a copy of the exact same DNA, they are still unique individuals. For example, even though identical twin babies have 100% identical DNA, they have different fingerprints. So the invisible Creator makes it clear that the source of our individuality is not just coded into DNA. We’re not just a bucket of molecules, but we are unique persons with souls, given to us by the Author of life.

Are you backed up some?
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@newjaninev2 [quote]Hey Godspeed, this stuff is hilarious! What else do you have?[/quote]

You're right, Newjaninev, you're posts are hilarious! 😆 You even thought you were talking to me. 😂
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@GodSpeed63 What does this copy-paste from a creationist indoctrination pamphlet have to do with my comments?

It’s this vacuous pap which makes some of us think you might well be a bot.
zork0000 · 56-60, M
@Aliveshock If you've ever read any of @newjaninev2's posts before, you'd know that she has a very high grasp of technical and scientific concepts. She is very well educated and she thinks and reasons at a level that I'm quite jealous of.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Aliveshock [quote]it inflated and then it expanded[/quote]

That’s correct... would you like to discuss it?
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@GodSpeed63 A citation would be nice. Presenting other's work as if it's your own is plagiarism, and highly unethical.
@newjaninev2
HahaHa
You really don’t appreciate what you did there. Please go on and include the multiverse theory in there professor.
*wink wink*
@zork0000
Please defend her highly speculative name.
I hate to see fans hurt when their idols get their a** taken apart,
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Aliveshock I’d ask what you’re talking about, but it has become apparent to all that you simply wish to conceal what you’re trying to talk about by not actually talking about it.

Very strange, and yet sweetly amusing
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Aliveshock [quote]include the multiverse theory[/quote]

No, let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

First, let’s discuss inflation and expansion, and give it the level of attention and detail it merits.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Aliveshock We’ll move on to the multiverse when we address quantum mechanics... [i]after[/i] we discuss inflation and expansion.

Are you OK with that?
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Aliveshock Then you can tell me all about Eric Lerner and plasma and fusion and GOLE and any other faery-tale he may have sold you
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Aliveshock [quote]name my Holy God “a super magical being”[/quote]

No, I called it a magical entity.

Are you saying that it isn’t magical?

That it cannot violate the physical laws of the universe?

Really?
@newjaninev2
You must have some followers that believe some of the stupidity you spew.
Don’t pat yourself on the back.
As always you make up some supposed authors I didn’t refer and skip critical data that totally refuted your “revered” CMB.
Gaia has brought more data on its third round that destroys the presumption of you big bangers. It is forgivable for Einstein to be wrong. Someone one like hawking knows better and also penrose when they keep their fecal matter as facts when they have been proven WRONG!
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Aliveshock You have never read Eric Lerner’s book ‘The Big Bang Never Happened’?

Is that what you’re (now) saying?

______________________________

Anyway, let’s discuss inflation and expansion, and give it the level of attention and detail it merits.

Let’s start now
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Aliveshock Incidentally, I don’t know why you reference the Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation at this stage. We’ll get to that eventually, and especially when we discuss COBE
@newjaninev2
You presumed you knew what I was referencing and you didn’t.
This is DATA
EVIDENCE from Gaia
If you need help keeping up on the facts of the big bang let me know and I can help.

Otherwise you have a fan base that thinks you know something science wise.

I would hate to expose you daughter of Lucy.
😂😂😂😂
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Aliveshock Yes, well... fine.

Why are you taking about evidence from GAIA? Evidence of what? Please stop being so vague.

Anyway, let’s begin
@newjaninev2
You are the genius.
GOOGLE Gaia
Is that so difficult.
Before your deceive anyone else about your expertise, learn about the subject matter and not the BS you are spreading here like a Covid virus.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Aliveshock So the evidence you’re you’re so eager not to present consists of ‘Google it for yourself’?

Umm... evidence of what?

If I continue to wait for you to stop whimpering and running away, I’ll be here all day, so I’ll begin, and you can just sort of try to catch up.

Cosmic inflation is the theory that rather than beginning with a singularity, there's a physical limit to how hot and how dense the initial, early stages of our expanding Universe could have reached. If we had achieved arbitrarily high temperatures in the past, there would be clear signatures, but [b]they aren’t there[/b]. For example

1. large-amplitude temperature fluctuations early on,
2. seed density fluctuations limited by the scale of the cosmic horizon,
3. leftover high-energy relics from early times, like magnetic monopoles.

These signatures are all missing. The temperature fluctuations are at the 0.003% level; the density fluctuations exceed the scale of the cosmic horizon; the limits on monopoles and other relics are incredibly stringent.

The Universe never reached arbitrarily high temperatures... something else came before the hot Big Bang to set it up.

Cosmic Inflation makes measurable, testable, predictions for observable signatures that would appear within our Universe.

Let’s look at those and see if they’ve been observed...

(have you caught up now?)
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Aliveshock By the way, you still haven’t confirmed that you have never read Eric Lerner’s book ‘The Big Bang Never Happened’?

Perhaps you referenced it in an earlier comment? Do you feel that might have happened?

Perhaps you saw reference to it in a creationist indoctrination pamphlet?

In any case, no matter.

It’s just a 30 year-old piece of nonsense that was superseded by scientific progress the year after it was published. It was written by a physics undergraduate who went on to write pop-sci fluff and become a general snake-oil merchant.

The topic, like the book itself, is unimportant.

So, moving right along...