WILL SCIENCE DISPROVE GOD? [Spirituality & Religion]

@Deserthiker Where does it say in the Bible that time is irrelevant to God?

@Carazaa Very good theological thinking suggests that God is not subject or subservient to time [u]as we experience it[/u]. He knows the end from the beginning. Inhabits eternity. A day is like 1000 years, 1000 years like a day. There are myriad verses.

The universe as it exists is space time - time as we experience we know through physics is a dimension of the universe, part of the fabric of the universe, and the universe was created ex nihilo.

It's a view. It makes sense to me.

@Abstraction

Exodus 20:8-11

[b]“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor, and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your male servant, or your female servant, or your livestock, or the sojourner who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy."[/b]

@Carazaa I know the verse, but it doesn't contradict what I said. I don't think God takes every seventh day off, he established a pattern within the universe AFTER he created it. I don't think time is 'irrelevant' to God, that wasn't my statement, but God is not subject to time as we are. There's not #1 eternal thing is time which God has no control of; #2 eternal thing is God. You haven't accounted for the entire picture of God in relation to time in the bible that I alluded to.

@Abstraction Time is very important to God, and so is money!

@Carazaa [quote]Time is very important to God, and so is money![/quote]
Definitely money. That's why the christian church attempts to amass as much as it can at the expense of the poor!

@Carazaa The ‘church’ and God are not the same thing. Church,, denomination, religion are human creations, as are any rituals and traditions. Christ had nothing to do with religion and denominations. He told Peter he would be the rock upon he builds his church he was not referring to the Roman Catholic Chuch. He was referring to the fellowship, the family, the people.
I anyone uses God to gain wealth, for the sake of evil I am positive they are not conspiring with God to hurt poor people.
Christ’s message is not constant with the above statement. Christ challenged the rich man who wanted to follow him, to sell everything he owned and give he money to the poor. When the rich man walked away Christ said it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. Associating Christ snd his teachings with modern, big business churches is not accurate.
Look at it as a great idea muddied up by humans.
I am definitely not pro religion and loath the hypocrisy of holier than thou, judgmental so called Christians. I stated before, I am not a good Christian

@Carazaa Exodus is part of the Old Testament. Perhaps inspired by God but definitely written by men. By make humans who lived in a very different time than today with very different customs.
Written for men of the same period.
Christ makes all of this irrelevant. One of the ‘sins’ Christ committed in the eyes of the religious leaders was healing a man on the sabbath.
It’s ok to watch football on Sunday.
Doesn’t matter how long the creation took or how it happened.

@Carazaa I will find the Bible passage. I’m almost certain it exists

@Carazaa Ok. Psalms 90:4, Peter 3:8 are a couple there are a bunch. These are two that are popular. The idea is that God transcends time because God is eternal and uncinate as is the universe.
Theory of Relativity stuff way before Einstein.
God is on his own timeline. There are all kinds of philosophical writings as well but I just stuck to the Bible

@Deserthiker [quote]Perhaps inspired by God but definitely written by men.[/quote]

The Word of God was written by God through holy men at their time.

@Deserthiker Very good. Yes I quoted these verses a while back and again in my featured post "when is Jesus coming back." When God repeats things 3 times, which he often does it is for us to[i] pay[/i] attention. Time is a [i]watch[/i] in the night and a watch keeps ticking even if we are asleep. Every second is important to God and so is every cent. In the book of Peter time is referenced around Jesus second coming. And God says in his word that "he knows the end from the beginning". I posted a video how Jesus second coming is in the first sentence of the Bible timeline Genesis 1:1 in Hebrew. I'll post it again. I believe in 6 day creation, and the time of the end is the 6th day going into the 7th day of rest. A "day is like a 1000 years" to God and according to the Bible family generations from Adam to Jesus is 4000 years and from Jesus to now is 2000 years and we are about to go into a day of rest.

@Sharon [quote]Definitely money. That's why the christian church attempts to amass as much as it can at the expense of the poor![/quote]

Ignorance at its best. Sharon, when are you going to stop opening your mouth and putting both feet in it?

@Carazaa Wby doesn't god magic up all the money these churches need instead of asking people to donate?
Why doesn't he end world hunger,disease etc..with just a snap of his fingers!

@Entwistle He has some rules of nature like gravity, lack of faith has its consequences.

@Carazaa So you are saying all starving people lack faith?

@Entwistle God wants us to lean on him and we turn to prayer if we have a need. But God is clear that he will supply all our needs if we have faith and are obedient. Sometimes he wants us to be more obedient. Sometimes he wants us to learn something, and sometimes he disciplines us.

@Sharon No that's why the Reformation happened because the Catholic church had expensive churches and Martin Luther believed that the church should help the needy.

@Deserthiker Christ said "[b]I did not come to abolish the law but to fulfil it[/b]!"

@GodSpeed63 [quote]Ignorance at its best. [/quote]
When are you going to start debating like an adult, offering some evidence for your claims, instead of just posting childish insults?

@Entwistle [quote]god magic up all the money these churches need instead of asking people to donate? [/quote]
More proof this omnipotent god thing isn't real, it's just an invention to exploit the ordinary people.

@Carazaa [quote]the Catholic church had expensive churches and Martin Luther believed that the church should help the needy.[/quote]
Now the other christian churches are catching up. The Church of England isn't exactly poverty stricken.

@Sharon [quote]When are you going to start debating like an adult,[/quote]

When are you going to start debating like an adult, Sharon, instead of like a spoiled child?

@GodSpeed63 Is that really the best you can do? No wonder you're a laughing stock here. 🤷‍♀️

@GodSpeed63 You are terrified of properly debating Sharon and Newjanine. Your replies prove it.