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WILL SCIENCE DISPROVE GOD? [Spirituality & Religion]

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MasterLee · 56-60, M

People believe what they want to believe. It is difficult to deprogram a belief.

Most people grow out of the need for an invisible "friend", if they needed it to begin with, by about 5 years of age.

Science is testable. One can rely on it because almost any person can actually witness the experiment.

Faith is only testable when those who have it are open to other modes of thought.

Religion is crack for those who need it to have meaning in their unhappy lives. I cannot tell you how many religious folks who say if their "god" wasn't real to them they would off themselves. So if religion keeps you from that it might be worth keeping around.

I feel it is better if you focus on the living rather than opining for your death as a magical gateway.

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GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@MasterLee [quote]Religion is crack for those who need it to have meaning in their unhappy lives. I cannot tell you how many religious folks who say if their "god" wasn't real to them they would off themselves. So if religion keeps you from that it might be worth keeping around.[/quote]

It's not about religion, never has been or ever will be about religion, it's a close relationship with our Father in Heaven through Jesus Christ, by His Holy Spirit. Jesus said that we must be born again in order to see the kingdom of God in the third chapter of the Gospel of John. You've had a Physical birth, now you need a Spiritual birth to God on a personal basis.

MasterLee · 56-60, M

@GodSpeed63 as I said...you need that. We don't.

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@MasterLee [quote]as I said...you need that. We don't.[/quote]

Who's we?

Bushranger · 70-79, M

@MasterLee Gotta love his preprogrammed responses.

MasterLee · 56-60, M

@GodSpeed63 those who do not believe your fairy tales

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@MasterLee [quote]those who do not believe your fairy tales[/quote]

What fairy tales are those?

MasterLee · 56-60, M

@GodSpeed63 yahweh for one

Carazaa · F

@MasterLee We were all "nonbelievers" in Jesus before we were saved.

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@MasterLee [quote]Yahweh for one[/quote]

Prove it.

MasterLee · 56-60, M

@GodSpeed63 how do you prove a negative? Prove it exists.

MasterLee · 56-60, M

@Carazaa saved from what?

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@MasterLee [quote]how do you prove a negative?[/quote]

Is that all can do is label Yahweh a negative?

[quote]saved from what?[/quote]

Yourself.

Carazaa · F

@MasterLee Saved means that the Holy Spirit (The Spirit of Truth as God calls it) comes into our hearts and dwells with us. Then we are forgiven for all our sins. Jesus took them on his shoulders so we can join other saved people in heaven one day soon. We don't have to be punished for our sins. God calls us a "peculiar people". We certainly are that.

Sharon · F

@GodSpeed63 [quote]Prove it.[/quote]
To avoid wasting time providing proof you won't accept, demonstrate what you will accept as proof by proving The Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't live. I'll then prove "yahweh" doesn't live [b]to the same standard of proof[/b]. Are you brave enough to accept that challenge?

Sharon · F

@Carazaa [quote]Saved means that the Holy Spirit (The Spirit of Truth as God calls it) comes into our hearts and dwells with us. [/quote]
The just christian propaganda. No one has ever managed to present any real evidence to support that BS.

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@Sharon [quote]To avoid wasting time providing proof you won't accept[/quote]

Still have no proof, Sharon? Your FSM god doesn't cut the mustard.

Sharon · F

@GodSpeed63 I have plenty of proof, I just want to know what proof you will accept. You keep denying The Flying Spaghetti Monster live so surely you have some proof - or it that just another of your unsupported opinions?

MasterLee · 56-60, M

@GodSpeed63 i do not require saving from myself. What is that religious gobblygook?

MasterLee · 56-60, M

@Carazaa again more religious gobblygook.

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@MasterLee [quote]i do not require saving from myself. What is that religious gobblygook?[/quote]

What religious gobblygook are you referring to?

MasterLee · 56-60, M

@GodSpeed63 what you are spewing. You are inventing as you go. There is no proof your god exists so you make up a reason to invent it, or justify a reason for it to exist. You are just a failed marketer.

Prove it exists or move on.

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@MasterLee [quote]There is no proof your god exists [/quote]

Yahweh has already proved Himself to mankind, we can't provide any more proof than He's already given. There is a mountain of evidence of His work, we can't provide any more evidence than He's already given. I'm not here to be a marketer, only a witness to the Truth.

Sharon · F

@GodSpeed63 [quote]we can't provide any more proof than He's already given.[/quote]
In other words, you admit you have no evidence.

[quote]There is a mountain of evidence of His work, [/quote]
You've been told before that what you misrepresent as evidence of your made up god "yahweh" is actually the work of The Flying Spaghetti Monster. No matter how much you deny it, you cannot alter The Truth and you have never been able to prove The Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't live. r'Amen.

Bushranger · 70-79, M

@GodSpeed63 Don't know about anyone else, but I'm still waiting for the first bit of actual evidence.

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@Sharon [quote]In other words, you admit you have no evidence.[/quote]

That's right, Sharon, because God provided it all.

[quote]You've been told before[/quote]

They're still wrong, Sharon, just like you are.

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