WILL SCIENCE DISPROVE GOD? [Spirituality & Religion]

@hartfire [quote]One cannot disprove something that doesn't exist.[/quote]

Then how do you know that Yahweh doesn't live if you can't prove He doesn't live?

@GodSpeed63 TabbyReader said "One cannot disprove something that doesn't exist”, so [i]by your own argument,[/i] the inability to disprove your god means that it does not exist

@newjaninev2 [quote]Then how do you know that Yahweh doesn't live if you can't prove He doesn't live?[/quote]
Then how do you know that The Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't live if you can't prove It doesn't live?

@GodSpeed63 If you accept the Biblical definition of Yahweh - then his defining characteristics are that he is simultaneously omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent and perfectly good.

A perfectly good being could not create an evil spirit such as Satan. Nor would such a god create an angel so consumed with vanity and lust for power as to become evil.

An omniscient being, having created Adam and Eve, would know in advance exactly how they would react to Satan's temptations, and would hence know that he would punish his creation for their choice by creating death, painful childbirth, and throwing them out of Paradise into a world of suffering.
By what standard could such a Genesis be an act of goodness?

A perfectly good God would not have allowed Noah to invent slavery by decreeing the enslavement of Canaan and his descendents to his brothers and their descendents.
This has significance because Jesus, according to the prophets, had to be born of the house of David. This meant that the line of patriarchs who carried God's special favour had to extend unbroken all the way back to Genesis. Noah, chosen as the patriarch to survive the Flood, is the progenitor of David. God's refusal to punish Noah for the invention of slavery is tantamount to condoning it - yet there are few sins more cruel than slavery.

An omnipotent God would not need to sacrifice his Son via three days of torture (crucifiction) and death.
The idea that one scapegoat, Jesus, should be able to accept the burdens of the sins of all the faithful in order that they may receive forgiveness is preposterous. What could be more cruel or more unjust than that someone should not accept full responsibility for their own errors and sins?

These are not the only examples. The Old Testament is full of examples of God permitting evil to exist and then punishing it in evil ways. It is full of examples of God behaving like a jealous three year old who chucks random tantrums whenever he decides he doesn't like what he sees.
In Genesis, he demands obedience for the sake of obedience; this is the behaviour of a narcissistic control freak - not of a being of goodness, kindness and love.

So if the faithful interpret the Bible in a literal way, then by its own text, God is neither omniscient, omnipotent, nor good.

@GodSpeed63 Please check the logic of your grammar.

@Sharon [quote]Then how do you know that The Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't live if you can't prove It doesn't live?[/quote]

Yahweh's Word.

@hartfire [quote]A perfectly good being could not create an evil spirit such as Satan. Nor would such a god create an angel so consumed with vanity and lust for power as to become evil.[/quote]

He didn't. Lucifer was the most beautiful of the angels and had free will like He gave to us. Lucifer had puffed up pride and wanted to take over God's throne. He forgot one little detail in that God was the Creator and he was the created. God created evil for one purpose, and that is to for His creation to exercise free will. Understand this, if you can't understand anything else, God did not create evil to overcome His creation.

@GodSpeed63 [quote]Yahweh's Word.[/quote]
Your yahweh doesn't exist. We can be sure of that because of The Flying Spaghetti Monster's Word. r'Amen.

@Sharon [quote]Your Yahweh doesn't exist.[/quote]

Prove it. Amen.

@GodSpeed63 Sharon did just prove it... using the very same ‘reasoning’ that you use. If you call her reasoning invalid, then you admit that your own is equally invalid.

So, which is it?

@newjaninev2 [quote]If you call her reasoning invalid, then you admit that your own is equally invalid.[/quote]

Her reasoning is invalid, she is using a made up 'god', if you will, to try to make her point. Yahweh is not a made up God, but is real and all living. Therefore my reasoning is valid.

@GodSpeed63

@GodSpeed63 [quote]she is using a made up 'god'[/quote]
Your yahweh is just a made up god so, by your own argument, your reasoning is invalid.

The Flying Spaghetti Monster is not a made up God but is real and all living. It just chose to make Itself known to Bobby Henderson in 2005. Therefore my reasoning is valid. r'Amen.

@Sharon [quote]Your Yahweh is just a made up god[/quote]

Where's your evidence?

@GodSpeed63 I rather think that her evidence lies in your [i]lack[/i] of evidence

@GodSpeed63 [quote]Where's your evidence?[/quote]
Right next to your evidence that all the other gods are made up gods.

@newjaninev2 @Sharon [quote] I rather think that her evidence lies in your lack of evidence[/quote]

You got it wrong. I don't have a lack of evidence like you two, my evidence is the evidence that Yahweh has already given.

@GodSpeed63 [quote] I don't have a lack of evidence [/quote]
Really? Why won't you present it then?

@Sharon [quote]Really?[/quote]

Really, really

@GodSpeed63 [quote]I don't have a lack of evidence[/quote]

So where is it?

@newjaninev2 [quote]So where is it?[/quote]

In front of your nose.

@GodSpeed63 Repeating your lies doesn't make them true.

@GodSpeed63 [quote]In front of your nose.[/quote]
I can see the results of natural phenomena, including evolution, but nothing to indicate your specific god.

@Sharon [quote]I can see the results of natural phenomena, including evolution, but nothing to indicate your specific god[/quote]

That only proves what I've known all along, Sharon, you can't see past the end of your nose.

@GodSpeed63 No, it proves that you're just imagining things.