The Amazing Scientific Evidence That Points To God [Spirituality & Religion]

@basilfawlty89 None of the atheistic or agnostic explanations ring true. They are simply too fanciful to be believed.

@hippyjoe1955 maybe, but it doesn't prove God. And like I said, I believe in God.

@basilfawlty89 God is simply the best option. The others are completely beyond any kind of belief.

@hippyjoe1955 perhaps that's true. But I don't discount the beliefs of atheists and agnosts. I was an agnost for a long time. I need proof, and the question still remains of proof. I believe in God, or at least the God of my understanding. But still there are gaps.

@basilfawlty89 The fact is that atheists and agnostics don't have a logical explanation of how things came to be. I'm not going to tell them they have to not believe their nonsense but I am going to have a good laugh as they try to perpetuate said nonsense. "Something came from nothing for no reason" "Some time later those bits of nothing got together, and again for no reason whatsoever and made dinosaurs".

@hippyjoe1955 I do agree with you. Nothing happened which caused something doesn't make sense to me either. But at the moment we're fiddling around in the dark. I do believe that science will prove a unifying force of consciousness, love and knowledge, but until it does, the agnosts and atheists have solid reasons to question.

@basilfawlty89 That unified force of consciousness is what we Christians hold to be Yahweh. Our God is not some little guy floating around on a cloud somewhere. He is Spirit within Whom all that has been created exists. It can't exist out side of Him since He is everywhere. That Being has a Will and a Consciousness. Through that Consciousness all things were created. Nothing was created apart from that Consciousness.

@hippyjoe1955 well that's the same with our God, Ahura Mazda. Ahura Mazda is the unifying force of love, consciousness and truth and to Ahura Mazda we return in death until Angra Manyu is defeated and we all live eternally.

@basilfawlty89 In Christianity death has already been defeated. Christ rose from the dead. We don't believe in life after death we believe in life after life. We step from this level to the next in the twinkling of an eye.

@hippyjoe1955 I don't believe in Christianity and have no desire to be a Christian.

@basilfawlty89 You will when you meet Jesus face to face. It might be too late but you will meet Him. He is the consciousness of Yahweh (the Great I AM).

@hippyjoe1955 No, I will not. I don't believe nor would want to worship a God that causes cancer in children.

@basilfawlty89 What makes you think that Yahweh causes cancer?

@hippyjoe1955 your God is responsible for everything. Our God Ahura Mazda is not responsible for disease and death. That's the domain of Angra Mainyu which we oppose.

@basilfawlty89 So your god is not responsible. Interesting. Why would you want to have an irresponsible god?

@hippyjoe1955 how is it irresponsible to not give kids cancer. I admit my God is not omnipotent.

@basilfawlty89 If you are focused only on this earth then your point stands. When you realize that we are here on this earth for a blink of an eye then go on to something much Much MUCH GREATER!!!! A bit of suffering is petty trivial.

@hippyjoe1955 I wouldn't call a child dying from a brain tumor a "bit of suffering". No loving God would condemn a child to that.

@basilfawlty89 So how long do you think eternity is?

@hippyjoe1955 it doesn't matter. It doesn't justify a child dying in pain.

@basilfawlty89 It does matter. How long is eternity?

@hippyjoe1955 eternity is obviously forever. But that's immaterial. Why if you're a "loving God" do you condemn an innocent child to cancer?

@basilfawlty89 What is the condemnation in having terminal cancer? We all die. Some of us die suddenly. Some of us die in great pain. Some of us die peacefully in our sleep. Some die in the womb. Some die shortly after birth some live for over a century but we all die. The fact is that death is not the end. It is like a graduation. You move from mortal to immortal in the process. All your aches and pains and worries and cares are gone. You are at peace in the LOVING arms of the Almighty Savior named Jesus.

@hippyjoe1955 which completely ignores pain and suffering, both for the afflicted and their families. Or are you some strange category of human that doesn't mourn?

@basilfawlty89 Not at all. The fact is that we all suffer. That is completely undeniable no matter what god/God you worship or want to believe in. Your belief system doesn't do a thing to help the suffering child. It just holds that sometime way in the future maybe death will be defeated. Huh?