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May you cure the virus of sin oh God! [Spirituality & Religion]

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Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
God didn't create sin, he created man and gave man free will, Satan tempted Eve with the fruit of the tree of knowledge, the other option was the tree of life. Adam ate after Eve and that sealed the fate of humanity. So God created the man who used free will to create sin.
Carazaa · F
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@Emosaur
You need to pray for some wisdom and the Holy Spirit! 🙂
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Carazaa · F
@Emosaur
Please read all my responses to you today! I already answered that 🙂
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Carazaa · F
@Emosaur please pray for wisdom so you understand my answer there are no contradictions!
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Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@Emosaur I think the origin of sin was Lucifer's pride. God created Lucifer and man so he created the beings where that potential lies. Sin isn't listed as something he created in Genesis, but then again, it doesn't say he created love, hate, jealousy, those are all part of the human condition. If you are so dead set on what God created I would recommend that you read the first book of the Bible. If sin is the big hangup for creation, I would consider sin isn't something we create, it is something we do. It is an action. He didn't create drinking or eating either but it is something we do. The play on words only gets you so far.
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Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@Emosaur Why so much concern about the whole thing if you have decided he isn't real? I don't worry about the Boogeyman any more because I know he isn't real. Sin isn't created, you can't buy it, it is an action or even a little more elusive, a choice. We all have a built in sin detector, our conscience, tells us when we are wrong, most of the time anyway. Some are stronger than others but with the exception of some serious mental disorders, it is there.

Why do you believe he isn't real? Were you brought up in the church and then left or have you never believed or participated in a faith?
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Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@Emosaur You are getting into the differences in old mosaic law and whether or not it applies to modern Christians. The birth, life, and crucifixion of Jesus ended the old covenant that was only with Israel and the Jews, it began the new covenant that includes the gentiles. Gentiles being any race other than the Jews. At first, humans were vegetarians, then after some time, meat was allowed. There were a lot of restrictions, the only one I really think is valid now is that you shouldn't drink the blood of animals. There isn't a way to explain why it isn't a problem to eat shrimp without explaining the Mosaic law and old covenant and then the new covenant with the gentiles. You have to understand the whole story to see where the changes are.

I grew up very religious and fell away because of what I thought was hypocrisy among the people who were supposed to be leaders in the church. And there certainly were some who were a little out there. As an adult not so many years ago, I started reading for myself in an effort to set things right in my own mind. I still have disagreements with what I was taught as a child in some areas, but the bad info came from others men, not from the Bible.
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Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@Emosaur I am not 100% sure about being gay. There is more than one way to look at it. And again, without understanding the whole story, it is difficult to explain, some parts of Leviticus explain how God expects humans to behave, other parts explain how a government should behave. The 10 commandments were originally written for the Jews when Moses was leading them out of Egypt, all of that is old covenant, but, those commandments were also spoken about by Jesus, either directly or in parables.
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Carazaa · F
@Roadsterrider
Thank you! You are wise! 💞🕊️People love justifying their sin by blaming God!
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Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@Emosaur I don't comprehend the mind of God, I do believe he knows everything including that man would sin, but some keep to Godly way and instructions. We do have free will to do as we wish. Some choose to embrace him, some do not. If God is welcomed into a persons life, he is there and he helps. If not, he doesn't push in where he isn't wanted. I don't think he is concerned with my day to day life unless I include him in it. I don't think there is a master plan that includes every human from the beginning of time till the end of time to work. As new technology comes about, it is becoming more clear that the Bible is historically accurate and more evidence that the spiritual aspects of it like creation are closer to the truth than evolution. Check out this video, it forces you to at least look at different possibilities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFYswvGoaPU

DNA is a way to reverse engineer the human evolution and legitimate arguments can be made for creation an/or intelligent design. Google "Creation Science". There is a ton of scientific info that proves historical biblical accounts. Some things seem hard to believe in light of recent findings. Science tells us that the last ice age was millions of years coming, but mastodons found in melting ice still had grass in their mouth and it was standing as if it were eating. If it took millions of years or even thousands, either there wouldn't have been grass there or the animal would have become hypothermic and laid down to die. Science is coming in on the side of intelligent design and biblical history more and more.
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@Roadsterrider
💞🕊️🙂 thank you! Very good points!
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Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@Emosaur You should check again, the "theory" of evolution is just that, a theory. There is absolutely no evidence to prove evolution, adaptation yes but still a big no for proof of evolution. If you watched the video, where did the first life form come from? Matter can't produce anything. There isn't a single thing that can be used as an example of something produced by matter. Nothing new has ever come from matter in all the time we have been experimenting. At the time of the "big bang", matter came into being. The scientist say it was a densely packed ball that contained all the matter in the universe, something caused it to explode and scatter all that matter across space to form the universe. Science says there was nothing but matter, and that matter at some point created new information and with that new information created single cell organisms and then they evolved into every plant, animal and human kind on the planet, yet there is no example of matter ever producing anything, all the experiments, mixing carbon based elements into the laboratory created primordial ooze, exposing it to radiation, electrical current, they have never been able to do it and have no examples in nature of it happening. Observational science proves that by what we can actually observe, it doesn't happen. We should be seeing new kinds of species from time to time and we don't. Darwin observed differences in species and came up with a theory that one species developed into the next. Monkeys evolved into cavemen and cavemen evolved into homo sapiens, etc., he wrote the book in 1859 and anthropologists have been looking for the "missing link" for 160 years.

The sources provided in the video are scientific sources, the examples are scientific examples. The traits in the construction of DNA or part of the basic science textbooks of grade schools, we learn how parents with brown eyes may have offspring with blue or green eyes. It is established science. If we should consider a religious persons perspective in this matter invalid simply because he is religious, should we also consider an atheist's position invalid? They both have an ideological motive to advance their idea, right? In the video there was actually an atheist who was interviewed.

Those who believe in creationism have the Bible as supporting documentation. Science is proving that the Bible is historically accurate.

Those who believe in evolution have science, the DNA evidence, Geological evidence and other disciplines leave questions unanswered when it comes to the origin of life. Basically they have a theory for about 160 years and they have not made any more progress in proving it since the inception of the theory.

As far as proving it, I see enough evidence for me to believe it, proving it to someone else isn't necessary, and is counter productive in my experience. Those who don't believe see evidence for a God or intelligent designer as flawed because the person with the idea believes in God. They want to put the God they don't believe in on trial without the benefit of a lawyer or witnesses. If you can't look at the evidence with any perspective, you can't consider the options. Like many scientists who start with what they believe to be the answer and try to make the facts fit the narrative.

I have faith and don't require science to back every item up. It is up to the atheist to prove evolution. That isn't my project to undertake.
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