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Entwistle · 56-60, M
Christians on the whole tend to be very selfish people. At least that's been my experience.
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NortiusMaximus · M
@Entwistle That's my experience too. They sometimes appear to be benevolent but only when they're trying to gain converts or want your money.
Carazaa · F
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Entwistle Oh, by no means all, Entwhistle!
Yes, religion of all persuasions offers ready-made scapegoats (usually poor old God or some conveniently-quoted prophet) for ducking personal responsibility for mis-treating other people. Yes, there are callous sects and cults that put dogma before humanity.
Yet there are plenty of good and bad religious people just as there are plenty of good and bad people who are not religious.
And citing the OP, many religious people accept science and some are scientists too - though others rather amusingly miss the irony of their using the Internet from (presumably) the comfort of a decent home with all mod. cons., to denigrate science, or at least that which dares question their chosen dogma!
A great many benefactors are encouraged to be so by their faith, and some of the wisest and most benevolent 19C employers, in my country at least, were members of the Society of Friends (the "Quakers").
Carazaa refers to her volunteering with the Red Cross. Islamic countries have a similar organisation, the Red Crescent, and I believe the two often co-operate.
I don't know if it has overseas branches, but here in the UK the Salvation Army is not only a charity that helps mainly homeless people and in disaster relief, but also a Christian church of its own.
Even without these examples, there are many people of all religious persuasions who are good in their own way, or at least certainly not selfish or scrounging. Those weaknesses are of human beings, not ancient scriptural doctrines.
Me? I am not religious though some of my friends are, and two or three are even ordained in the Anglican Church; but I try to be good to others!
Yes, religion of all persuasions offers ready-made scapegoats (usually poor old God or some conveniently-quoted prophet) for ducking personal responsibility for mis-treating other people. Yes, there are callous sects and cults that put dogma before humanity.
Yet there are plenty of good and bad religious people just as there are plenty of good and bad people who are not religious.
And citing the OP, many religious people accept science and some are scientists too - though others rather amusingly miss the irony of their using the Internet from (presumably) the comfort of a decent home with all mod. cons., to denigrate science, or at least that which dares question their chosen dogma!
A great many benefactors are encouraged to be so by their faith, and some of the wisest and most benevolent 19C employers, in my country at least, were members of the Society of Friends (the "Quakers").
Carazaa refers to her volunteering with the Red Cross. Islamic countries have a similar organisation, the Red Crescent, and I believe the two often co-operate.
I don't know if it has overseas branches, but here in the UK the Salvation Army is not only a charity that helps mainly homeless people and in disaster relief, but also a Christian church of its own.
Even without these examples, there are many people of all religious persuasions who are good in their own way, or at least certainly not selfish or scrounging. Those weaknesses are of human beings, not ancient scriptural doctrines.
Me? I am not religious though some of my friends are, and two or three are even ordained in the Anglican Church; but I try to be good to others!
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@Carazaa So the only reason you volunteer is to get points to go to heaven. If there was no heaven you wouldn't care about your fellow human beings? You wouldn't feel the compassion in your heart to help you fellow man? This is just self-interest, you are only being good in order to avoid hell and achieve heaven.
Carazaa · F
@Entwistle I want to please God because He has feelings! He is hurting so much when we hurt people and all he wants is for us to be loving and take good care of this world, and not be mean! It’s kind of the same feeling as I had my own Dad, I wanted to make him happy and proud of me! My Dad was so kind to everyone and went beyond for people! Same as God!
Carazaa · F
@JimboSaturn When a person is saved God puts love in our hearts for everyone!
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JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@SpiritualMan Read JaneTVs message below..
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Carazaa · F
@SpiritualMan Thats why I start every day with 3 chapters of bible reading and a sermon on You-tube, and end the day with devotion! I want to be in Gods will for me!
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JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@SpiritualMan Can you prove anything without quoting the Bible? If God is real it would be self evident and its logic could exist without the aid of scripture.
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@SpiritualMan What comment are you trying to answer, I'm confused.
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