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ArishMell · 70-79, M
I cannot see why you have put " 'science' " in a sermon trying to frighten us in to believing in your way in your Yahweh, ironically on a system that could not exist without science and engineering.
Religious faith and science are two entirely different concepts with entirely different natures, asking entirely different questions, doing entirely different things.
Religions are monopolistic ("I believe in god X, so your belief in god Y is wrong and evil"; "You and I believe in god Z, but only my sect is right."). The world has seen many self-righteous religions and sects come and go - with most encouraging their followers to claim universal "truth" based merely on their founders' untested, unquestioned, personal religious opinions.
Science transcends god-bothering, and indeed even nations. It has to, because Nature (by any god or none) does not observe human political, social and religious artifices, whereas studying Nature objectively and applying scientific knowledge constructively, relies on international co-operation between people of many faiths and none.
This also means that spiritual faith and objective knowledge are not mutually exclusive. You can be a professional scientist or have a lay interest in science, but still believe in a god driving the cosmos and all it holds, and many do.
Besides, your bleak polemic imagines a deity and its "kingdom" so cold, judgemental, unforgiving, self-righteous and exclusive, I find it darkly amusing, wondering if it would admit any mere human "souls" at all!
Religious faith and science are two entirely different concepts with entirely different natures, asking entirely different questions, doing entirely different things.
Religions are monopolistic ("I believe in god X, so your belief in god Y is wrong and evil"; "You and I believe in god Z, but only my sect is right."). The world has seen many self-righteous religions and sects come and go - with most encouraging their followers to claim universal "truth" based merely on their founders' untested, unquestioned, personal religious opinions.
Science transcends god-bothering, and indeed even nations. It has to, because Nature (by any god or none) does not observe human political, social and religious artifices, whereas studying Nature objectively and applying scientific knowledge constructively, relies on international co-operation between people of many faiths and none.
This also means that spiritual faith and objective knowledge are not mutually exclusive. You can be a professional scientist or have a lay interest in science, but still believe in a god driving the cosmos and all it holds, and many do.
Besides, your bleak polemic imagines a deity and its "kingdom" so cold, judgemental, unforgiving, self-righteous and exclusive, I find it darkly amusing, wondering if it would admit any mere human "souls" at all!
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@ArishMell @Fernie
I was talking about your pseudo science and not science itself.
Who said anything about religion? I was talking about the true God Yahweh.
Science, even true science, doesn't transcend God or His Word. Like this universe and this earth, science is only temporary but God and His Word are eternal.
Be rest assured that Yahweh desires that none of us be lost but all come to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ. This desire is inclusive, not exclusive. Like Lucifer, man tries to put himself above God but can't do it nor can he judge God because his judgments are not true and unrighteous. Yahweh's judgments are true and righteous for He is all knowing and all wise.
I cannot see why you have put " 'science' " in a sermon trying to frighten us in to believing in your way in your Yahweh, ironically on a system that could not exist without science and engineering.
I was talking about your pseudo science and not science itself.
Religious faith and science are two entirely different concepts with entirely different natures, asking entirely different questions, doing entirely different things.
Who said anything about religion? I was talking about the true God Yahweh.
Science transcends god-bothering, and indeed even nations.
Science, even true science, doesn't transcend God or His Word. Like this universe and this earth, science is only temporary but God and His Word are eternal.
Besides, your bleak polemic imagines a deity and its "kingdom" so cold, judgemental, unforgiving, self-righteous and exclusive, I find it darkly amusing, wondering if it would admit any mere human "souls" at all!
Be rest assured that Yahweh desires that none of us be lost but all come to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ. This desire is inclusive, not exclusive. Like Lucifer, man tries to put himself above God but can't do it nor can he judge God because his judgments are not true and unrighteous. Yahweh's judgments are true and righteous for He is all knowing and all wise.
Fernie · F
@GodSpeed63 HE does NOT exist
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
Sharon · F
@GodSpeed63
Yahweh is reality.
Prove it!.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M