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shuhak · M
No I do not. That's what's known as the "prosperity gospel".
Be careful not to take things out of context. In Malachi, God is telling His people (Israel) much more than just tithing. God is angry at His people. They were mocking God by giving Him a false pretense of worship (lip service). They offered God lame animals as sacrifices while keeping the best for themselves, worshiped idols, divorced their wives just because they wanted to, withheld tithes because they wanted the money... And then they had the gall to wonder why He wouldn't accept their worship. They were so bad that one couldn't distinguish them from the wicked.
Malachi should be a wakeup call to us today, as many people who claim they belong to God are doing the exact same thing. They're all "churchy-church" on Sunday, but the rest of the week they cheat, lie, and mistreat others. They claim to follow God, but their hearts are set on money and pleasure (greed, selfishness). They abuse their wives and children (physically and/or mentally). And then they wonder why God's not blessing them or hearing their prayers. God was not pleased with that then, and He is not pleased with it now.
"So now we call the arrogant blessed; not only are the doers of wickedness built up but they also test God and escape." - Malachi 3:15
Be careful not to take things out of context. In Malachi, God is telling His people (Israel) much more than just tithing. God is angry at His people. They were mocking God by giving Him a false pretense of worship (lip service). They offered God lame animals as sacrifices while keeping the best for themselves, worshiped idols, divorced their wives just because they wanted to, withheld tithes because they wanted the money... And then they had the gall to wonder why He wouldn't accept their worship. They were so bad that one couldn't distinguish them from the wicked.
Malachi should be a wakeup call to us today, as many people who claim they belong to God are doing the exact same thing. They're all "churchy-church" on Sunday, but the rest of the week they cheat, lie, and mistreat others. They claim to follow God, but their hearts are set on money and pleasure (greed, selfishness). They abuse their wives and children (physically and/or mentally). And then they wonder why God's not blessing them or hearing their prayers. God was not pleased with that then, and He is not pleased with it now.
"So now we call the arrogant blessed; not only are the doers of wickedness built up but they also test God and escape." - Malachi 3:15
HorrorshowHijabi · F
@shuhak Very well put
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@shuhak not speaking of tithing but it seems when I donate things to help others it seems I get to get back at least what I have given if not more. And not from those who I have donated to. It is strange
HorrorshowHijabi · F
@Carazaa Where does jesus pbuh say this?
Carazaa · F
In Genesis 20@HorrorshowHijabi
HorrorshowHijabi · F
@Carazaa that's making the assumption that jesus pbuh is Allah which is something he never claimed in his life. As far as genesis 20 goes you might want to check out this link from a christian financial advisor:
"Just as Abram’s example is never used as a basis for tithing in the Bible, neither is Jacob’s example used to justify tithing. I also haven’t heard many people using Jacob’s example to justify tithing in today’s church – probably because it would go against everything else they try to teach about tithing (i.e., all Christians must do it, it must be the first 10% before anything else, etc.)."
http://www.providentplan.com/740/tithing-in-the-bible-jacobs-example/
"Just as Abram’s example is never used as a basis for tithing in the Bible, neither is Jacob’s example used to justify tithing. I also haven’t heard many people using Jacob’s example to justify tithing in today’s church – probably because it would go against everything else they try to teach about tithing (i.e., all Christians must do it, it must be the first 10% before anything else, etc.)."
http://www.providentplan.com/740/tithing-in-the-bible-jacobs-example/
Carazaa · F
@HorrorshowHijabi in John 1:1 and in Colossians 1 and in isaha God says that Gods Son is the mighty creator , Jehovah, the savior of the world, God himself came down to save the sinful world and when people asked him if he can forgive sins he said what’s easier to say your sins are forgives or take up your bed a walk to the crippled? Then he said take up your bed to a cribbled and the crippled walked off with his bed! He alone can forgive sin!
shuhak · M
@Carazaa I wholeheartedly agree that God wants us to give Him our best (best); after all, He gave His best to us (Jesus). In fact, God wants than just our best, He wants our all - "You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind".
Jesus said to get rid of ANYTHING that would come between us and Him. God doesn't want our divided loyalty (..."love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind"). We don't simply get rid of something just because we want a blessing. That'd be like telling God - I did such-and-such for You, so now You have to do such-and-such for me. No, we do it because we love God. He has promised to give us what we need (not what we want or think we want) - "Seek first the kingdom of Gods and His righteousness, and all these things will be added to you." - Matthew 6:33
Jesus said to get rid of ANYTHING that would come between us and Him. God doesn't want our divided loyalty (..."love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind"). We don't simply get rid of something just because we want a blessing. That'd be like telling God - I did such-and-such for You, so now You have to do such-and-such for me. No, we do it because we love God. He has promised to give us what we need (not what we want or think we want) - "Seek first the kingdom of Gods and His righteousness, and all these things will be added to you." - Matthew 6:33