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GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
JollyRoger · 70-79, M
@GodSpeed63 Don't get me wrong - I do believe in God. BUT:
As the book of Genesis was 'written' many thousand years after Adam's account of what happened in the Garden of Eden (Notice... Nobody asked Eve for her account) - all we have is a verbal account of what Adam reported to his kids - schools were pretty scarce back then - and the written word didn't come about for several thousand years after Adam died. [b]So, there is room for interpretation.[/b] The next point is that in Genesis, God seems to 'drop in' on Adam and Eve to see how they are doing in managing His garden. At no time do we get the impression that God sat Adam down and said things like, "Adam, see that dirt over there? That's what you are made of." "And by the way, while you were sleeping, I took one of your ribs and made a companion for you." So.... where did this 'stuff' come from? [b] Where does Santa Claus come from?[/b] It comes from people telling a tale over and over and embellishing it to impress their audience.
By the way... didn't I hear that just VERY recently they discredited veracity of the Dead Sea Scrolls? And then: we have the Books of Matthew, Luke and John who most scholars admit have been composed from the writings of many authors - AS WITNESSES told the stories to them. - Truth or convenience of memory?
And then we have the Lord's Prayer as translated by scribes in the employ of King James! - can you imagine Jesus telling his disciples that prayer with the words "... AND (you God) LEAD US NOT INTO TEMPTATION..." as if my God would want to lead Jesus, the disciples or me and you into temptation!! And... the audacity of someone (attributed to Jesus himself) to ask God not to do that!
So... I rest my case that there is a strong possibility for corruption of fact in the Bible. NOTE: I do not say that the whole text is corrupt and I do not say that there isn't much to learn from reading it! BUT: if you are asking me to BELIEVE it, word-for-word? Try it on someone else!
As the book of Genesis was 'written' many thousand years after Adam's account of what happened in the Garden of Eden (Notice... Nobody asked Eve for her account) - all we have is a verbal account of what Adam reported to his kids - schools were pretty scarce back then - and the written word didn't come about for several thousand years after Adam died. [b]So, there is room for interpretation.[/b] The next point is that in Genesis, God seems to 'drop in' on Adam and Eve to see how they are doing in managing His garden. At no time do we get the impression that God sat Adam down and said things like, "Adam, see that dirt over there? That's what you are made of." "And by the way, while you were sleeping, I took one of your ribs and made a companion for you." So.... where did this 'stuff' come from? [b] Where does Santa Claus come from?[/b] It comes from people telling a tale over and over and embellishing it to impress their audience.
By the way... didn't I hear that just VERY recently they discredited veracity of the Dead Sea Scrolls? And then: we have the Books of Matthew, Luke and John who most scholars admit have been composed from the writings of many authors - AS WITNESSES told the stories to them. - Truth or convenience of memory?
And then we have the Lord's Prayer as translated by scribes in the employ of King James! - can you imagine Jesus telling his disciples that prayer with the words "... AND (you God) LEAD US NOT INTO TEMPTATION..." as if my God would want to lead Jesus, the disciples or me and you into temptation!! And... the audacity of someone (attributed to Jesus himself) to ask God not to do that!
So... I rest my case that there is a strong possibility for corruption of fact in the Bible. NOTE: I do not say that the whole text is corrupt and I do not say that there isn't much to learn from reading it! BUT: if you are asking me to BELIEVE it, word-for-word? Try it on someone else!
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@JollyRoger [quote]if you are asking me to BELIEVE it, word-for-word? Try it on someone else![/quote]
Who do you think wrote the Holy Bible?
Who do you think wrote the Holy Bible?