Did God create man or did man create God [Spirituality & Religion]

@th3r0n Like the current virus? 😏

@Quizzical no, the virus is real, god not so much.

@Quizzical yes, though that is done to the inhabitants of the earth, not for them

Revelation tells us all of what's happening now, and it's about to get worse

@th3r0n You know, every generation believes they are living in the 'end times', and yet we're still here 🤷‍♂️

@Quizzical no, some people from the generation think so, the signs were specific, and this is the only time they've all happened

@th3r0n They always say that too...

@Quizzical nope, denial of the obvious requires dedication and I see you have it

@th3r0n what exactly do you mean by "and this is the only time they've all happened"?

@Johnblackthorn all of the signs at once in order, there were hundreds given, the natural disasters and a spotless red calf was born and the signs in the sky and so many others

@th3r0n telling lies is a sin, now try again but this time ask your god for assistance.
I want actual examples from the real world, you won't need to quote chapters or verse, I have biblical knowledge.

@Johnblackthorn you have none if you have accused me of lying, I have no desire to argue with fools, goodbye

@th3r0n I'll accept that as an admission of guilt,
You mentioned the spotless red calf, there have been a few born over the past few years, only one fits in with your time frame it was born on August the 28 2018 unfortunately it's not in it's third year of life yet and doesn't qualify anyway, another was born last year, again, it's not in its third year of life but might still qualify but it's supposed to be the first sign and you claim all the signs have happened in order.

@th3r0n I have to disagree with you. It's like I posted: Man created God in his mind. We IMPOSE on God to do the things we wish for (we pray for them). But, we are individual people (little powerless pieces of flesh). God's UNIVERSE (another of man's creations - by definition) encompasses the big picture of what is and what can be.. not of what is and what we'd like it to be. So, if God needs to 'clean house', he might set aside some time to watch a virus do that for him. He did it in Noah's time and the world survived - people survived!

@th3r0n Hey.... there are some really great postulations in this thread! I like it! Of course we're all just farting into the wind.

@th3r0n Oooooo. Don't do that.... rise to the challenge! If someone calls you a liar (he's not really - he's just questioning the basis of your judgments and beliefs), you should defend your beliefs.

@JollyRoger it does no good to speak truth to those who don't believe truth exists, and it does no good to show light to the blind

They ignore the truth and go on disparaging, correcting the ignorant only works if the ignorant wish to be rid of ignorance

@th3r0n So... you're not an evangelist? I think he could apologize for the tone of his message but I don't really think he's as 'hard rock' close minded as you do.

@JollyRoger would you persuade him then?

I can teach those who want to learn, and I do, but to those who wish to argue, I find no place to argue, only to educate

If I was trying to figure out by science it would be one thing, God does miracles for me, just as his word says when I have faith and no doubts he does it, without fail, though literally no doubt is a bigger thing than people realize

I've seen proof personally that shows beyond doubt that God is real and true, debating science when one has made up their mind doesn't seem to ever help

It's like asking you to prove that you exist while ignoring the obvious, it becomes impossible