Science Can't Disprove Christianity [Spirituality & Religion]

@quitwhendone [quote]Dumbest shit I've ever heard/read.[/quote]

Is that your best intellectual response? Come up with something better, will you?

@GodSpeed63 It's not up to me (or anyone) to disprove Christianity (or any religion). It's up to you (or any believer) to prove it. The words religious faith and belief are used for a reason...because it cannot be proved as fact. Even a Catholic priest will tell you that. And many Catholic priests and ministers of other Christian denominations have admitted that to me.

@quitwhendone [quote]Dumbest shit I've ever heard/read.[/quote]

Why is that? I wouldn't say that, unless I could prove my words.

@quitwhendone [quote]It's not up to me (or anyone) to disprove Christianity (or any religion).[/quote]
For one thing, Christianity is not a religion, it's a way of life which God created from the very beginning. Another thing is that we can't provide any more proof that God lives than He, Himself, has already provided.

@GodSpeed63 You're dumber that Trumpanzees.

@quitwhendone [quote]It's not up to me (or anyone) to disprove Christianity (or any religion). It's up to you (or any believer) to prove it. The words religious faith and belief are used for a reason...because it cannot be proved as fact. Even a Catholic priest will tell you that. And many Catholic priests and ministers of other Christian denominations have admitted that to me.[/quote]

You're right. It's not up to any of us to prove Christianity or any religion. They pretty much speak for themselves, although...your description of Christianity as a religion is misinterpreted. The definition of a Christian is "a follower of Christ". Not some religion. That is, it is a [i]personal[/i] relationship with God. Religion is described as man-made philosophy, which has nothing to do with what God says in His Word. Religion did not die on the cross to pay for our sins so that we could go to heaven when we die. Jesus did.

Another idea that many are mistaken about, is that the proof of God is in the experience, as well as the majesty of, and beauty of His creation. If a Catholic priest told you differently, God help him. If [b]anyone[/b] should know that, they should, and have no excuse.

@LadyGrace There is no proof of any God. That's a fact. It's a belief, a faith, not a fact. The only people who believe it are people who WANT it to be true.

@quitwhendone How bout we discuss without name calling. We're not in kindergarten here.

@LadyGrace The accepted definition of religion is a personal relationship with a higher, spiritual being or God. I take it that Christians believe they have such a relationship with their God. So, by using the word in the context of religious belief is acceptable.

I understand what you are saying, but there is a huge difference between describing something as religious and saying something is a religion.

@quitwhendone [quote]There is no proof of any God. That's a fact. It's a belief, a faith, not a fact. The only people who believe it are people who WANT it to be true.[/quote]

I disagree. MAYBE for some it works that way, ok? That's because they haven't grasped or learned real knowledge of God, so they guess on how to be saved, but have no clue. However, to say one doesn't have salvation, nor knows God, without actual proof of that, is wholly an inaccurate assumption. That doesn't mean God does not exist. Some cannot find God, for the simple reason that a thief cannot find a cop.

@Bushranger Accepted by those who may not understand that God didn't initiate faith in man-made philosophy, but in Jesus, and that religious philosophy matches nothing in His Word. God wants nothing to do with religious philosophy, which is man's guess, at best. God never left us to guess about salvation and how to have eternal life. That was His whole purpose in coming. I take God's definition any time, over man-made philosophies. This comes from man's flawed presupposition that He can figure God out and put Him neatly in a box of his own making. God's thoughts are not our thoughts, and His ways are definitely not our ways. In a nutshell, it is the idea that God must do, act, and follow our lead, exactly as we think he ought to, and if he doesn’t, we’re going to tell Him that he doesn’t exist. In our extremely [i]finite[/i] wisdom, we just know we know better than God, and just how he ought to do things. That is the height of arrogance, self-pride, ego, and lack of knowledge about God and of God's Word. Man is not smarter nor wiser than God. He never shall be. He thinks he is, but he is so sadly mistaken.

@LadyGrace At no time did I mention philosophy or philosophical interpretations. If you have a personal relationship with a higher, spiritual being or personal God, then your belief in that God is religious. That is NOT the same as talking about a religious denomination or philosophy.

@Bushranger
[quote]The accepted definition of religion is a personal relationship with a higher, spiritual being or God.[/quote]


But you did, in that of your "accepted" definition of philosophy and religion. Philosophy IS nothing but man-made. AND you even mentioned/included the word [i]religion[/i], which was the subject at hand.

@LadyGrace [quote]This comes from man's flawed presupposition that He can figure God out and put Him neatly in a box of his own making. [/quote]

No, just defining a word used to describe a personal relationship with God. It has nothing to do with trying to '...figure God out....' but everything to do with having an acceptable definition. I think the problem is that you have confused the grammar.

@Bushranger Hardly.

@Bushranger [quote]It has nothing to do with trying to '...figure God out....' but everything to do with having an acceptable definition. I [/quote]

If you want to start figuring God out, then get to know Him on personal basis.

@GodSpeed63 Didn't I write that it has nothing to do with figuring God out? Please at least try to keep up.

@GodSpeed63 Yes, that is the only way, according to scripture....besides Christ calling his disciples to spread the Good News, we have John 2:27 "As for you, the Spirit which he gave you is [u]still in you[/u] (believers). The Holy Spirit teaches you about the things of God, and is true and not false, so keep your hearts in him, through the teaching which he has given you."

@Bushranger [quote]Didn't I write that it has nothing to do with figuring God out?[/quote]

Sure, you wrote that, but you've been trying to figure God out since I've known you. You've been inquiring about Him an awful lot on here.

@GodSpeed63 😂🤣

@GodSpeed63 No, I've been trying to figure out how supposedly rational people can ignore evidence.

@Bushranger But why go back and forth on it, if you do not believe each other? Why not just agree to disagree? I feel for each one of us, we all have our different perspectives but that does not mean the other person is wrong and it does not mean the other person is right. It's all a matter of perspective of the hearer. But as far as evidence, there is plenty of evidence for Christ and his existence. It's just that people do not want to accept it, and what's wrong with that? To each their own. It just seems pointless to argue about it. I mean it could go on forever. Haha