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The TRINITY DOCTRINE is a falsehood [Spirituality & Religion]


There are so MANY verses in the Bible that prove the Trinity Doctrine is a falsehood and not based on the Bible.... Often reasoning and common sense can open the eyes of faith and understanding in an honesthearted person who really wants to know the truth. It is so sad and unfornate that so many sincere hearted ones have put their faith in a falsehood created by humans
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johnny253 · 80-89, M
It's irrelevant to the Christian whether he believes in the Trinity or not. Why?When Paul preached in the surrounding Nations, did he preach the Trinity? No.His fellow believers never knew anything about it. Paul never knew anything about it. It was an evolved theology as has been mentioned and has been proclaimed as Doctrine in 381 AD. The question I ask is; If the Trinity isn't true what is the relationship of the 3 entities?
Exactly the point! ... good to here echoed
johnny253 · 80-89, M
The last question I asked was who are the the 2 other entities? Any ideas. Perhaps, that's where the concept of the Trinity was formed. I don't know.
johnny253 · 80-89, M
We believe that there is a spiritual world which we go to when we die but we can't see it or prove it. In studying "Quantum Mechanics", it's been proven that what we see is affected by us seeing it which is counter intuitive.There is so much we don't understand. The Trinity is counter-intuitive,however,that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. I think that we won't know until we die.🤔
@johnny253: Didn't quite understand your explanation of what "Quantum Mechanics" is. What does "counter intuitive" mean?
johnny253 · 80-89, M
Thanks for asking. Counter- intuitive is simply something that seems to go against our common sense.
Quantum Mechanics is the study of the behavior of particles in the sub-atomic range. To sum up a technical subject, a beam of sub-atomic particles is affected by whether it is observed versus whether it is not observed. In other words, the particles actually will change direction merely because we are looking at it.That goes against our common sense. If you assume this is happening at a microscopic level than it should be true on a macroscopic level also. Maybe the Moon is only there when you see it, not when you turn away😃. Perhaps our brains are wired for us to see these things even though they don't exist.After all, when you die, the Universe disappears and it was never there at all.All that exists are our brains telling us that this is a reality.
@johnny253: Your're welcome ☺ That's kinda deep, and respectfully saying, confusing to say the least. I was thinking johnny, that our minds are "wired" to use our imagination about things that don't make sense or logic and it is from this type of thinking that gave birth to the Trinity Doctrine. On the flip side of the coin, our minds are "wired" to try to make sense out of something that doesn't make sense and if we're honest with ourselves we will admit that what we may believe to be truth concerning the Trinity Doctrine really doesn't make common sense and in reality is a falsehood that is not backed up by the Bible.
@johnny253: Thank you for your thoughts, insights and explanations.
johnny253 · 80-89, M
@seotelkniwt:Thanks for reading🙂
johnny253 · 80-89, M
@seotelkniwt: The question remains that if there is no Trinity, what is the relationship between the Holy Spirit and Jesus , the son of God?
@johnny253: Thank you Johnny
@johnny253: The holy spirit is simply God's active force, not a person, that God uses to accomplish His will and purpose for obedient mankind. Holy spirit is likened to a "helper", personified, that activates and motivates as well as brings Jesus's sayings and teachings to his followers mind and heart and also helps them to do God's will. Jesus also needs the help of the holy spirit from his heavenly Father just as all his followers do.

Early Christians became filled with holy spirit and Jehovah said: "I will pour out some of My spirit on every sort of flesh." (Acts 2:1-4, 17) Those verses prove that holy spirit is not a person or part of a triune god.

Without God giving Jesus His holy spirit, Jesus would not have been able to perform the many miracles that are logged in the 4 Bible Gospels.

The scriptures even encourage those who ask for God's holy spirit to do so as long as their requests are in harmony with God's will.
@johnny253:

Yep Johnny ... seems Seo here located the following scriptures on pages of the bible unrevealed to the rest of us ...



The holy spirit is simply God's active force, not a person, that God uses to accomplish His will and purpose for obedient mankind. Holy spirit is likened to a "helper", personified



Apparently, she has replaced the long history of church teachings ... with her own ... then has declared her's better.

It is an okay thing.

Faith has weathered far more.

Johnny, my compliments on your gentle insights. I also really like the quantum physics analogy. When I learned quantum physics, I related it to the Holy Trinity ... it gave quarks more character.

Thanks again ... for the nice logical way you shared.