This atheist, and scientist explains why he came to the realization why there has to be a loving God! [Spirituality & Religion]

@QuixoticSoul or take the time to educate yourself if you want to talk on such a complex topic

@SW-User The complexity of the topic is precisely why youtube and video are such a poor way to approach it. And woefully inefficient - you can read everything he says over half an hour in five minutes or so, not to mention easily refer back to earlier info for analysis. This video age is rotting everyone's minds.

I've read quite a few books and articles on the subject over the years, and one of my degrees is in philosophy - don't think I'm new to this particular debate.

@QuixoticSoul I think You Tube is great for lectures! Especially for those who are more auditory!

@Carazaa "I think You Tube is great for lectures! Especially for those who are more auditory!"
You are right, but this happens ONLY when there are serious scientific papers formally publishing a scientific research that is SPECIFIC about what the YouTube lectures about.
Collins haves, certainly, published papers on his research.
But NO ONE behind THIS YouTube.
That makes this YouTube not a "lecture" but only propaganda.
If it´s good or bad...that´s another fish.
But not a scientific lecture.

@CharlieZ He is not lecturing. He is witnessing how he became a Christian, and why.

@Carazaa Sorry, I took your own words for it "I think You Tube is great for lectures"
Right, he is not lecturing about Science, but about his personal faith experience. That´s good.

But, if so...
Why to mention Science matters?
To give "scientific validity" to his faith?
Not needed, he may believe even if (in strict math logic terms) is "Absurd".
And, for also the sake of honesty, neither need to make such a distortion of scientific concepts.

Doing this, he is not making a favour to Science and neither to faith.

We, then, agree, that Science is out of his speech.
My respects, Carazaa.

@CharlieZ I posted this because there are many intelligent scientists who are Christians, because God saved them. He circumcised their hearts, and they love God and people. It's a miracle from above. God saved me, He died for my sins. I have a science degree and I love God!

@Carazaa You are right.
There are a lot of christan scientists.
And a lot of Jew scientists.
And a lot of Muslim scientists.
And a lot of Hinduist ones.
And a lot of Agnostics in science research.
And a lot of Atheists doing Science.

They work together with no clash.
They all do the same Science and, sometimes, do the same kind of mistakes.
Why?
Because Science is secular.

Can´t provide a basis for faith.
Can´t provide a refutal for faith.

But …
It can refute most of faith based asertions about the material Universe.
And should do it.
Faith arguments about Nature, if they are called "Science", are a fraud.
Which should be an ethical contraint for also christians,

"Thou shalt not bear false witness".
Well, Intelligent Design is a good example of "false witness".

@CharlieZ This scientist is just telling people that he was born again and it changed his life.

@Carazaa What can be rightly done without distorting Science. Right?

@CharlieZ He is very intelligent and some say that you can't be intelligent and a scientist and love Jesus and believe in creation. This is a good example of a man who does.

@CharlieZ Why can't he mention science? He is a scientist!

@Carazaa I am a Christian.
I am a Scientist.
And neither of those facts leaded me to say that I have four wingged cows in my backyard.

@CharlieZ He said there is a cow with wings?

@Carazaa He can mention Science when he is doing Science.
When he uses Science to validate his faith, he is not doing Science.
And neither being based on faith.

@Carazaa Oh, not so much difference between the "Fine Tunning" argument and cows with any amount of wings.

@CharlieZ If you are a Christian then you read your Bible right? And then you know that God tells us that his world testifies of him all around us, right? That is what God told Job in the book of Job and in many other places. This world testifies of God, and the Bible does too!

@Carazaa He may testify without saying what is not true about the Universe.
That´s not honest.

@Carazaa "The Bible shows the way to go to heaven, not the way the heavens go." - Galileo Galilei

@CharlieZ You are not quoting God! Here is what God says about his creation testifying to his handiwork.

[b]
"The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of His hands. 2Day after day they pour forth speech; night after night they reveal knowledge.…"
Psalms

Romans 1:19
"For what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them."

Romans 1:20
"For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse."[/b]

@Carazaa No, I was not quoting the Bible.

Beacuse you posted a scientist talking on the relationship between belief and Science, I quoted another scientist, one of the founder of Science, saying about the same.
Which is coherent.

If you read his quote carefully he said, in other words:

"When related to faith I read the Scriptures.
But the Scriptures do not give a good descrition of the material sky.
As it´s not it´s purpose.
As for knowing the material sky, I´ll "read" the material sky"

He did this, and was one of the beginers of Science.
While he was also Christian.

Do you find it to be a bad thing?

@CharlieZ You say you are a Christian? Then why don't you believe what God says in the Bible???

@Carazaa "The Bible shows the way to go to heaven, not the way the heavens go.".
The way the sky go is described by Science.

@CharlieZ You say you are a christian but you talk like you are not one! God explained that he made the universe for us to see his splendor. You believe some of the Bible but not others?