Science Really Does Point To God [Spirituality & Religion]
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JesusChrist · 100+, M
Yay! I'm back! It's my Second coming! But what the hell is this? Some new Idol I have to contend with, one among many. Christians have a number of Idols and a number of creative ways of denying to themselves that they're idol worshipping. But their biggest Idol is one they needn't even take a single step to find, that is if they could even remove the beam from their eyes!
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JesusChrist · 100+, M
Eric Metaxas rules Facebook and YouTube. Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's.
@JesusChrist Yes many have come to worship the Bible as an idol while you have been gone.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@JesusChrist [quote]But what the hell is this?[/quote]
I hate to tell you but Jesus doesn't swear and He knows all.
I hate to tell you but Jesus doesn't swear and He knows all.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@canusernamebemyusername [quote]Yes many have come to worship the Bible as an idol while you have been gone.[/quote]
Jesus didn't go anywhere and no, we do not worship the Word of God but we worship the Lord God, who wrote it.
Jesus didn't go anywhere and no, we do not worship the Word of God but we worship the Lord God, who wrote it.
@GodSpeed63 Again God didn't write the Bible.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@canusernamebemyusername [quote]Again God didn't write the Bible.[/quote]
His Word says that He did and His Word is Truth.
His Word says that He did and His Word is Truth.
JesusChrist · 100+, M
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@JesusChrist[quote]Men wrote it, men who proclaimed to be the voice of God[/quote]
It was not man that wrote the Word of God, it God, Yahweh, Himself that wrote it.
2 Timothy 3:16 &17
16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
2 Peter 1:16 - 21
16 For we did not follow cunningly devised fables when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of His majesty. 17 For He received from God the Father honor and glory when such a voice came to Him from the Excellent Glory: “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” 18 And we heard this voice which came from heaven when we were with Him on the holy mountain.
19 And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts; 20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private [j]interpretation, 21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but [k]holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.
The Word of God.
It was not man that wrote the Word of God, it God, Yahweh, Himself that wrote it.
2 Timothy 3:16 &17
16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
2 Peter 1:16 - 21
16 For we did not follow cunningly devised fables when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of His majesty. 17 For He received from God the Father honor and glory when such a voice came to Him from the Excellent Glory: “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” 18 And we heard this voice which came from heaven when we were with Him on the holy mountain.
19 And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts; 20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private [j]interpretation, 21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but [k]holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.
The Word of God.
CookieLuvsBunny · 31-35, F
@GodSpeed63
[quote]It was not man that wrote the Word of God, it God, Yahweh, Himself that wrote it.[/quote]
If God wrote the Bible he needs to keep his stories straight. He contradicts himself a great deal and doesn't remember what happened in the past very well.
Also, God should have preserved what he originally wrote. We have absolutely no original manuscripts of any part of the Bible
[quote]It was not man that wrote the Word of God, it God, Yahweh, Himself that wrote it.[/quote]
If God wrote the Bible he needs to keep his stories straight. He contradicts himself a great deal and doesn't remember what happened in the past very well.
Also, God should have preserved what he originally wrote. We have absolutely no original manuscripts of any part of the Bible
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@CookieLuvsBunny [quote]If God wrote the Bible he needs to keep his stories straight.[/quote]
There's only one interpretation of the Word of God and that belongs to Yahweh, Himself. You need to get your interpretation of His Word straight. Then, and only then, will you see that Yahweh has His stories straight.
There's only one interpretation of the Word of God and that belongs to Yahweh, Himself. You need to get your interpretation of His Word straight. Then, and only then, will you see that Yahweh has His stories straight.
CookieLuvsBunny · 31-35, F
@GodSpeed63
It isn't an interpretation, the New Testament is filled with contradictions.
Example:
[quote]How many days did Jesus teach after his resurrection? Most Christians know that “He appeared to them over a period of forty days” (Acts 1:3). But the supposed author of that book wrote elsewhere that he ascended into heaven the same day as the resurrection (Luke 24:51).[/quote]
It isn't an interpretation, the New Testament is filled with contradictions.
Example:
[quote]How many days did Jesus teach after his resurrection? Most Christians know that “He appeared to them over a period of forty days” (Acts 1:3). But the supposed author of that book wrote elsewhere that he ascended into heaven the same day as the resurrection (Luke 24:51).[/quote]
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@CookieLuvsBunny [quote]It isn't an interpretation, the New Testament is filled with contradictions.[/quote]
That's your misinterpretation of the New Testament. The core of the account is what's important. Even though the gospels differ in testimonies, they still do not contradict each other.
That's your misinterpretation of the New Testament. The core of the account is what's important. Even though the gospels differ in testimonies, they still do not contradict each other.
CookieLuvsBunny · 31-35, F
@GodSpeed63
[quote]Even though the gospels differ in testimonies, they still do not contradict each other.[/quote]
Very wrong
Example:
[quote]Matthew has Mary, Joseph and Jesus fleeing to Egypt to escape Herod, and says that the return of Jesus from Egypt was in fulfillment of prophecy (Matthew 2:15). However, Matthew quotes only the second half of Hosea 11:1. The first half of the verse makes it very clear that the verse refers to God calling the Israelites out of Egypt in the exodus led by Moses, and has nothing to do with Jesus.
As further proof that the slaughter of the innocents and the flight into Egypt never happened, one need only compare the Matthew and Luke accounts of what happened between the time of Jesus' birth and the family's arrival in Nazareth. According to Luke, forty days (the purification period) after Jesus was born, his parents brought him to the temple, made the prescribed sacrifice, and returned to Nazareth. Into this same time period Matthew somehow manages to squeeze: the visit of the Magi to Herod, the slaughter of the innocents and the flight into Egypt, the sojourn in Egypt, and the return from Egypt. All of this action must occur in the forty day period because Matthew has the Magi visit Jesus in Bethlehem before the slaughter of the innocents.[/quote]
[quote]Even though the gospels differ in testimonies, they still do not contradict each other.[/quote]
Very wrong
Example:
[quote]Matthew has Mary, Joseph and Jesus fleeing to Egypt to escape Herod, and says that the return of Jesus from Egypt was in fulfillment of prophecy (Matthew 2:15). However, Matthew quotes only the second half of Hosea 11:1. The first half of the verse makes it very clear that the verse refers to God calling the Israelites out of Egypt in the exodus led by Moses, and has nothing to do with Jesus.
As further proof that the slaughter of the innocents and the flight into Egypt never happened, one need only compare the Matthew and Luke accounts of what happened between the time of Jesus' birth and the family's arrival in Nazareth. According to Luke, forty days (the purification period) after Jesus was born, his parents brought him to the temple, made the prescribed sacrifice, and returned to Nazareth. Into this same time period Matthew somehow manages to squeeze: the visit of the Magi to Herod, the slaughter of the innocents and the flight into Egypt, the sojourn in Egypt, and the return from Egypt. All of this action must occur in the forty day period because Matthew has the Magi visit Jesus in Bethlehem before the slaughter of the innocents.[/quote]
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@CookieLuvsBunny [quote]Very wrong[/quote]
Very right. It's your interpretation of the Gospels that is contradictory, not the Gospels themselves. Without the Spirit of God abiding in you, you can't interpret the Word of God accurately.
Very right. It's your interpretation of the Gospels that is contradictory, not the Gospels themselves. Without the Spirit of God abiding in you, you can't interpret the Word of God accurately.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@CookieLuvsBunny [quote]Without the Spirit of God abiding in you, you can't interpret the Word of God accurately.[/quote]
He got you there hun.
You have to be trully delusional to understand all that crypticism in there. And you just ain't that. 🤷♂️
He got you there hun.
You have to be trully delusional to understand all that crypticism in there. And you just ain't that. 🤷♂️
Speedyman · 70-79, M
It amazes me the way you constantly cut and paste things off the Internet which you obviously haven't understood yourself to try and make your points. The guy you have quoted is a tired old theologian making tired all points which went out of date years ago. Absolutely pathetic@CookieLuvsBunny
Speedyman · 70-79, M
Well at least the stuff I post may have gone through some process where is yours has gone through no thought process at all which is not surprising coming from you as you do not think at all@CookieLuvsBunny
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Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@CookieLuvsBunny Well
It's nice to have another source to look into. Thx for that.
But you don't really have to convince me.
As I said, look at "Francesca Stavrakopoulou"
I like the way she argues, she has an incredible intresting field if you want too look at the bible. And she (just like me) is also not a fan how Richard Dawkins handles things. That doesnt mean I don't like Dawkins works, but the way how he argues is not my cup of tea. Way to much drama
It's nice to have another source to look into. Thx for that.
But you don't really have to convince me.
As I said, look at "Francesca Stavrakopoulou"
I like the way she argues, she has an incredible intresting field if you want too look at the bible. And she (just like me) is also not a fan how Richard Dawkins handles things. That doesnt mean I don't like Dawkins works, but the way how he argues is not my cup of tea. Way to much drama
Carazaa · F
@CookieLuvsBunny
Dr. Ehrman guy doesn't know what he is talking about. The apostles all have historical proof of existing. And they died testifying about Jesus. God inspired Godly men to write exactly what he wanted them to write. This man is deceived by Satan, and is used by Satan to deceive men. Jesus saved me and I know he answers my prayers, and please don't listen to this nonsense. There is no way after studying the Bible for 50 years many hours a day that it could be a book made up of men because of the prophesies. Only God knows the future. It is wishful thinking that we can do what we want. He wants to sin without a consequence, that's why he is convincing himself that the Bible is a lie. That is the only reason people want there to be no God. Because otherwise they have to answer for their sins. God is watching us. But Jesus , God almighty, died for humanity and humanity missed it, Just as the Bible says. He missed it.
God wants to see our faith, he is [i]not[/i] going to give men any signs if they have no faith [i]unless[/i] there is visual proof. God says that in the last days many will be deceived more and more.
Dr. Ehrman guy doesn't know what he is talking about. The apostles all have historical proof of existing. And they died testifying about Jesus. God inspired Godly men to write exactly what he wanted them to write. This man is deceived by Satan, and is used by Satan to deceive men. Jesus saved me and I know he answers my prayers, and please don't listen to this nonsense. There is no way after studying the Bible for 50 years many hours a day that it could be a book made up of men because of the prophesies. Only God knows the future. It is wishful thinking that we can do what we want. He wants to sin without a consequence, that's why he is convincing himself that the Bible is a lie. That is the only reason people want there to be no God. Because otherwise they have to answer for their sins. God is watching us. But Jesus , God almighty, died for humanity and humanity missed it, Just as the Bible says. He missed it.
God wants to see our faith, he is [i]not[/i] going to give men any signs if they have no faith [i]unless[/i] there is visual proof. God says that in the last days many will be deceived more and more.
CookieLuvsBunny · 31-35, F
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