Science Really Does Point To God [Spirituality & Religion]
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Reflection2 · 41-45, M
It does and it don't!!
Amazing, that the guy who invinted Algebra in 8th centruy wrote the same thing and the guy who got Nobel prize for finding out the first physical existence of dark matter( through experiments ) said the same things;
" We may or may never find the answer to it".
We collective understanding of our existence and our surroundings in completely unknown. We have very fine scale matters look into which we can't due to our limitations in technological advancements. Also, we have answers to questions lay outside in such a waste universe, we still can't comprehend and maight never will. Its a matter of faith.
Nothing starts from nowhere, nothing starts from nothing. It denies both science and religion.
I studied Earth Sciences and I don't see, science either rejecting or confirming the existence of One mighty Power.
How ever, my subconscious, my conscious, my life experiences, and my scientific learnings, all shout out to me that, there is God.
Amazing, that the guy who invinted Algebra in 8th centruy wrote the same thing and the guy who got Nobel prize for finding out the first physical existence of dark matter( through experiments ) said the same things;
" We may or may never find the answer to it".
We collective understanding of our existence and our surroundings in completely unknown. We have very fine scale matters look into which we can't due to our limitations in technological advancements. Also, we have answers to questions lay outside in such a waste universe, we still can't comprehend and maight never will. Its a matter of faith.
Nothing starts from nowhere, nothing starts from nothing. It denies both science and religion.
I studied Earth Sciences and I don't see, science either rejecting or confirming the existence of One mighty Power.
How ever, my subconscious, my conscious, my life experiences, and my scientific learnings, all shout out to me that, there is God.
Reflection2 · 41-45, M
@Kwek00 Reread ot again plz
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Reflection2 [quote]I studied Earth Sciences and [b]I don't see, science either rejecting or confirming the existence of One mighty Power.[/b] How ever, my subconscious, my conscious, my life experiences, and my scientific learnings, [b]all shout out to me that, there is God.[/b][/quote]
The point manny have been making is that "science" doesnt have to point to annything. It discovers what is already there. Manny people tried to discover if "God" is real. And no one ever found anny reason for him to be there. Every reason people came up with, have been critisised, and God stays to be a "pressumption". Some bit of data that we have been copying over and over and over in history, and since the 18th century "modern" (englightened parts of the world - as in the enlightenment as a philosophical stream/idea) have been filtering this bit of "data" out. Since there is no reason for it to excist.
But people (like yourself) keep clinging to this pressuposed idea, that you are only aware off, because it's in the dataset you grew up in. If you would have grown up annywhere where God wasn't an issue, your gut feelings probably won't shout to you that there is God. Since you never heared of that point.
So my question is... "so you take feelings over fact"?
The point manny have been making is that "science" doesnt have to point to annything. It discovers what is already there. Manny people tried to discover if "God" is real. And no one ever found anny reason for him to be there. Every reason people came up with, have been critisised, and God stays to be a "pressumption". Some bit of data that we have been copying over and over and over in history, and since the 18th century "modern" (englightened parts of the world - as in the enlightenment as a philosophical stream/idea) have been filtering this bit of "data" out. Since there is no reason for it to excist.
But people (like yourself) keep clinging to this pressuposed idea, that you are only aware off, because it's in the dataset you grew up in. If you would have grown up annywhere where God wasn't an issue, your gut feelings probably won't shout to you that there is God. Since you never heared of that point.
So my question is... "so you take feelings over fact"?
Reflection2 · 41-45, M
@Kwek00 I don't get it, how you making it. When what ever said, doesn't say that.
Reflection2 · 41-45, M
@Kwek00 Why do you keep missing the point where I mentioned my scientific understanding also helped me in believing in a higher power? Also, I wrote some thing in the every first paragraph, one from nobel price winner in 2012 and one from 8th centruy scientist,due to him you are able to write stuff like these on internet. Lets say. I believe in feelings. Any issue with that?
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Reflection2 No, I read that part... I'm more amazed that you haven't pointed out what scientific ideas point towards the believe of a higher power. I think there is still a good concensus in scientists, that the idea of a "higher being" so far, isn't really needed in the field of science.
Your paragraph on the nobel price guy, also ends with: "We may or may never find the answer to it". If I understand your paragraph, then both of these people came to the same conclusion? That we might never know? I don't see a problem with that. But since we might never know, also doesn't make the positive claim anny more true. The idea is that if we don't know, we shouldn't use it our decision making in anny way. Once you accept the positive claim (just look around in this threat) people will use that information for their descision making and world vieuw and step out of the idea that we "dont know" to the idea that we "do know".
I've also said before that really smart people can be religious (any religion for that matter). But there are also quite a lot of examples where once their scientific findings reach on their dogmatic ideas, that they are unable to accept science and kinda get lost because of cognitive dissonance.
And yes, you can perfectly believe in feelings. I believe in feelings too. The question was if you take facts over feelings (and there is a questionmark there, no need to get all defensive yet).
Your paragraph on the nobel price guy, also ends with: "We may or may never find the answer to it". If I understand your paragraph, then both of these people came to the same conclusion? That we might never know? I don't see a problem with that. But since we might never know, also doesn't make the positive claim anny more true. The idea is that if we don't know, we shouldn't use it our decision making in anny way. Once you accept the positive claim (just look around in this threat) people will use that information for their descision making and world vieuw and step out of the idea that we "dont know" to the idea that we "do know".
I've also said before that really smart people can be religious (any religion for that matter). But there are also quite a lot of examples where once their scientific findings reach on their dogmatic ideas, that they are unable to accept science and kinda get lost because of cognitive dissonance.
And yes, you can perfectly believe in feelings. I believe in feelings too. The question was if you take facts over feelings (and there is a questionmark there, no need to get all defensive yet).
Reflection2 · 41-45, M
@Kwek00 Defensive! You remind of me of something. I will keep it cool. I believe in feelings 😁.