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Science Really Does Point To God [Spirituality & Religion]

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newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
Who says a life-sustaining Earth 'just happened’?

It happened (obviously), so requires no faith whatsoever. There's no need for any such pretence, because it’s demonstrably true.

Is there anything that suggests it could not have happened? Well, there are at least 150 billion stars in our average-sized galaxy (that’s 150,000,000,000 stars), and we can see at least 200 billion other galaxies in the observable universe (that’s 200,000,000,000 galaxies).

It’s too soon to give a reliable number of exoplanets per star, but even a [i]conservative[/i] guess of two immediately results in a staggering number of planets. Rather than being impossible, it’s actually [b]inevitable[/b] that some planet would eventually develop life (which is a self-sustaining chemical system capable of darwinian evolution).

There are two options other than ‘it happened’.

One option is that life didn’t happen, and that there is no life on Earth.

The other option is that some magical entity created all this just so it could tell me not to wear mixed fabrics... although that seems rather like overkill (but hey, apparently the magical entity is into overkill).

Notice that this Eric Metaxas muppet, when questioned about creationism, immediately starts taking about the origin of the universe, and then just as quickly skips away to ‘fine-tuning’ .
In fact, the universe is not 'finely-tuned’ for life. If things were different, then they wouldn’t be the same... that’s hardly deep and meaningful!

I’m surprised that Metaxas refers to Hitchens.

Let’s see what Hitchens had to say about ‘fine-tuning’, shall we?

Hitches was debating Davis Wolpe some years ago. Wolpe challenged Hitchens, saying, "The odds that the universe would actually be constituted are .0000 to the billion power, because all these various astronomical constants have to be exactly right, balanced on a knife edge in order for there to be a world. So that's the first piece of evidence that the world knew we were coming."

Unimpressed, Hitch responds,

"Now to this knife edge point, why are people so impressed that it so nearly didn't happen? Some designer. I might mention on the knife edge point, knife edge is exactly the right metaphor as it turns out, just in the little far off suburban slum of our tiny solar system—that's a detail in the cosmos—just the one we know, we know the following: that of the other planets, all of them are either much too hot or much too cold to support any kind of life at all. If they ever did they don't any longer and will never do so again. And that is true of very large tracts of our own planet. They're either the too hot or too cold and it's on a climatic knife edge as it is and is waiting for the Sun to swell up into a red dwarf, boil the oceans, and have done with the whole business, and we even know roughly the date on which that will occur. That's just in our suburb; it's in our hood. So we may have a lot of a little bit of something now but there's a great deal of nothingness headed our way. Some design, huh?"

He continues, showing the absurdity of thinking the whole of the cosmos, including all of its mass extinctions, was all a preparation for us.

“It were waiting for us? It was waiting for us to occur? For you and me to arrive? Well, 98.9% of every species has ever been on earth has already become extinct. So if there's a creator or designer (and I can't prove there isn’t) who wanted that? This designer must be either very capricious, very cruel, very incompetent, or very indifferent. [b]Grant him and you must grant all that[/b]. "
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@newjaninev2 Love your work.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@newjaninev2 If it wasn't planned then it just happened. Your theory is about as scientifically sound as a gust of wind blowing through a lumber yard and a house is built as a result. Completely forgetting that the lumber was already pre-made and the plumbing and wiring and heating and cooling came from somewhere else. It is simply a stupid theory that makes absolutely no sense at all.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@hippyjoe1955 [quote]If it wasn't planned then it just happened[/quote]

The only thing we can be sure of is that abiogenesis happened.

Not ‘just’ happened... no more than magical entities just happen.

In fact, I don’t know how abiogenesis occurred... [b]and nor do you[/b]
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@newjaninev2 How can you be sure? Were you there? Did you witness it? Funny how you and your kindred spirits keep changing your story. A month ago you denied abiogenisis now you are acclaiming abiogenesis. Well if the truth be told I don't believe in a magical entity like you do. You who believe in magic mud are the superstitious amongst us. You have a startless beginning and a meaningless end. The whole middle of your existence is pretty useless too. Causeless causation is a pretty clueless point to start at and your philosophy simply becomes more and more ridiculous as it goes along. Doesn't explain a thing but it keeps the stupid happy. Too Funny. What a clueless troll.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@hippyjoe1955 If you bothered reading what people write to you, you’d notice that I wrote:

I don’t know how abiogenesis occurred... [b]and nor do you[/b].

No claims of certainty... unlike you

The only one of us who has denied abiogenesis is you (according to you, there is no life on Earth!)
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@newjaninev2 So either it was an accident. (you) or it was designed and given life by a Loving Creator (me). Your theory is so much nonsense it isn't worth reading what supporters of it have to say. Statistically it can not happen by accident. Way too complex. With some thing we call life which evolution has no idea where it even came from. It certainly is more than a bunch of connected proteins. Join them all together and you still don't have life. Witness a dead cell.