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Why is every youtube channel that preachers religion always based on assumption and conjecture rather than evidence? [Spirituality & Religion]

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Bagalamaga · 56-60, M
Why are you visiting those channels if you’re an atheist?
Unlearn · 41-45, M
@Bagalamaga because that's what he likes to do... talking about things he doesn't understand yet.
PikachuTrainer · 26-30, M
@Bagalamaga out of curiosity.
PikachuTrainer · 26-30, M
@Unlearn oh I understand, understand the need to believe in something even if that something doesn't exist, same goes for anything whether connected to Religion or Politics.
Unlearn · 41-45, M
@PikachuTrainer nah you don't... that's why you seek evidence.
PikachuTrainer · 26-30, M
@Unlearn actually I do, the reason I seek evidence is because there is no point in being a slave to something that may or maynot exist.
Bagalamaga · 56-60, M
@PikachuTrainer sounds like you can’t make up your mind on the subject. You wouldn’t need to prove anything to anyone otherwise.
Unlearn · 41-45, M
@PikachuTrainer why do you need evidence!? So you can believe in something?
PikachuTrainer · 26-30, M
@Bagalamaga oh I can, and it is those who preach who need prove anything, not me.
Bagalamaga · 56-60, M
@PikachuTrainer you are preaching right now.
PikachuTrainer · 26-30, M
@Bagalamaga perhaps I am, but I'm not preaching on the existence of a non-corporeal life form where there is no evidence of it actually existing.
Unlearn · 41-45, M
@PikachuTrainer there is something better than believing... it's knowing directly.
Bagalamaga · 56-60, M
@PikachuTrainer you are preaching about the non existence of the same life form and there’s no evidence of it non existing. It’s the exact same thing.
PikachuTrainer · 26-30, M
@Unlearn yes, and you'll never know directly unless you die, and, well, you only live once depending on the religion.
PikachuTrainer · 26-30, M
@Bagalamaga yes it is, and the fact that is no evidence to prove or disprove that life form exists seems to suggest that it doesn't exist by default.
Unlearn · 41-45, M
@PikachuTrainer hehe...making blind assumptions isn't the science way :-)

Why do you assume that what's been your experience so far is the same for everyone else?
Bagalamaga · 56-60, M
@PikachuTrainer I disagree on that. You can’t qualify the lack of evidence as evidence. The lack of evidence means we can’t determine something.
PikachuTrainer · 26-30, M
@Unlearn an assumption yes, a blind assumption however it is not, Science in itself is about making an assumption based on evidence or the lack of then proving or disproving it.
PikachuTrainer · 26-30, M
@Bagalamaga we actually can, we can quantify the lack of evidence as evidence in itself, that is a basic part of science. If it cannot be tested it cannot be proven.
Bagalamaga · 56-60, M
@PikachuTrainer what we don’t see doesn’t exist? Didn’t science disprove this a long time ago?
PikachuTrainer · 26-30, M
@Bagalamaga yes, however Science has also proven that what we can't see can still exist, such as Oxygen, Carbon Dioxide, Gravity, atoms etc. God is not one the items on that list.
Bagalamaga · 56-60, M
@PikachuTrainer that list is not carved in stone. Science is still evolving. What you say would be true if we reached a certain level where we know everything. There are new questions popping up every day,they always outweigh the answers. You are mixing up god with religion again. You need to separate the two to get a better understanding of the subject.
PikachuTrainer · 26-30, M
@Bagalamaga actually no, you were right, right up until you mentioned mixing up God and Religion, you need the latter to have the former.
Bagalamaga · 56-60, M
@PikachuTrainer religions are the early interpretations about the unknown. By people,for people.Although we evolved and we are in the era where we want to get a better understanding of it.not much has changed. God is just an English word describing the unknown. Science can be categorized as a religion as well. This is a golden age of science because nobody stones you to death for questioning things anymore. People have a choice (probably the first time in human history) to believe whatever they want.
PikachuTrainer · 26-30, M
@Bagalamaga you are confusing Scientology and Science, Science itself is not a religion, and God does not mean describing the unknown. And try going to the Middle East, such as Pakistan or Iran, and question the teachings of Allah or Muhammed. It is a guaranteed way to get stoned without the need for Drugs.
Bagalamaga · 56-60, M
@PikachuTrainer those people have the right to believe in whatever they want. Im aware of the difference between science and scientology. I also believe that the definition of religion is wrong. Not every religion worships a divine being. Taoism is vastly different from abrahamic religions yet still being categorized as one. Lets look at religions and beliefs about god as a baby. When the early religions form,the baby was born,in the newton era the baby turned 1. The baby is 2 these days. Just a toddler. Started observing the world but still has no idea what’s what. Arguments like these are pointless,the baby wont be able to solve an equation before 10 .