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HijabaDabbaDoo When you say islam, what do you mean? Sunni’s? Shias? Wahabis? Ahmadis? The legal school of thoughts? Which one are you hoping to reform
Why are you acting like we have to only choose 1 or 2? This isn't complicated, bro; we just try to appeal to as many people as possible, regardless of the name. It worked in the USA with the civil rights movement, despite the many different denominations of Christians who live here. If you have a specific objection, now is the time to raise it.
Your examples are moving away from the conversation and just attempts to justify your use of the word persuasion.
You're the one who attacked my use of the word persuasion. If you don't want semantic arguments, don't dish out semantic arguments.
You refer to islam as though it’s a disease that people need to be freed from.
I did not. I'm telling you that prejudice is a disease that's largely manifested itself in Islam, and that Islam and many Muslims need to be cured of it.
Did martin luther king aim to wipe away someones identity while aiming for equality or did he fight for it?
Are you implying that prejudice is a legitimate part of people's identity that should not be fought?
Ah okay, so there’s already no progressive muslims in existence
huge strawman argument
so you wanna help them to fit the standards of what you consider progressive for them to spread it amongst other muslims? Does that even sound feasible to you?
It's already happening, dude. Look at the Muslim populations in Europe and the US; they're a lot more progressive than the Wahhabists as it is.
As a muslim myself, I know that this is nothing more than wishful thinking. I have differing views from other muslims yet they still stand by their views despite continuous conversations. The bottom line here is people know what they believe in because it comes from faith not from what’s trendy. True reform is when they consider their character and practice.
You seem to have this weird ideological thing where you have so little hope for your own religion that you believe they cannot be convinced, yet recognize that moderate Muslims exist and believe that Muslims are generally good. It's a contradiction that almost leads me to believe that you're not engaging in good faith.