Do you believe in God? [Spirituality & Religion]

@PikachuTrainer [quote]No, God is nothing more than a Mythological being created in order for our ancestors to explain how they came to be with the lack of scientific knowledge or equipment to say otherwise. The Creation story for instance was written more as a poem than as something that should be taken literally.[/quote]

And yet you have nothing to support what you say is true. It's just your opinion and not actual truth.

@GodSpeed63 what I said is actual truth, and you've yet to support your side of the argument at any point on any of the various threads were we have had this discussion.

@PikachuTrainer [quote]what I said is actual truth[/quote]

Then support it with evidence.

@GodSpeed63 you are the one that needs to support your argument with evidence, after all it is upto you to prove God exists, it is not upto me to disprove your delusional fantasies, especially considering we've already given you a lot of supporting evidence in the past which you have disregarded.

@PikachuTrainer [quote]you are the one that needs to support your argument with evidence[/quote]

I guess you have none then. Your opinions and suppositions will not make the one true God, Yahweh, go away.

@GodSpeed63 first you have to prove that God actually exists, and then you have to prove that Yahweh is indeed the one true God. Also it is quite funny that you are calling me suppostisious when I don't believe in something that lacks evidence.

@PikachuTrainer [quote]first you have to prove that God actually exists,[/quote]

You still don;t have any evidence to support your claim, I see. Well then, get used to Him being around. If you can't show evidence that Yahweh doesn't live, then the opposite is true, that He does live.

@GodSpeed63 that is not how evidence works my friend.
1. You have yet to prove he does exist
2. Without any evidence to prove he exists he does not exist by default
3. It is up to you to prove that he does exist, it is not upto me to prove otherwise

@PikachuTrainer My kid walks ,,she was crippled 4 yrs
Doctors say she looks like she grew a new spine
but that is impossible ,,but MRI's show its not

SO I don't need to prove crap ,,He proved you are ignorant

You thinks you can just dismiss Him so easy
when He gave you all kinds of proof
It just doesn't fit in your box as proof

I have my miracle and my faith

Stick to your ,,I respect that
Until 1994 ,,I said He didnt exist too
Until instantly I was healed of addiction's I fought for years
No withdraw ,,NO Dts ,,just no more desire to use or drink again ,,that was Jan 18,1994
I have had lots of reasons to relapse
But I did not want the hell back I was freed from

You want a sign ,,there won't be one
Now its personal
I have my reason to believe ,,hang on to yours not to
its cool with me

@rckt148 I think I'll take the chance here and say you are talking bullshit.

And no, there is no proof of any kind that your God does exist, there is plenty of evidence however to prove that the human concept of God does not exist.

No you have a story that is likely to be 100% codswallop.

You cannot be healed instantly of addiction, addiction itself takes years to fight, so if this story is true it is you, not some sky fairy, who healed you of your addiction.

There won't be a sign? Oh how convenient.

@rckt148 that's a great testimony, Ive been healed by God and I know people who have had addictions broken by God through prayer, I've also experienced God in so many ways, It's sad when people dismiss Him

@TheWildEcho you'll find your mythological being did nothing to break yours or other people's addictions, try giving yourself credit for your own achievements than trying to thank something that has had or unable to make any involvement in your own life.

@PikachuTrainer but God HAS had involvement in my life!!

@TheWildEcho right, because you place confirmation bias on supposed miracles in order to delude yourself of there being a higher power.

@GodSpeed63 Romans 1:20, brother

@PikachuTrainer Believe what you want, l know what I've experienced, you don't even know me and yet you seem to know what's happened in my life more than I do!!

@PikachuTrainer Read Psalm 14:1, or Psalm 53:1

@BiblicalWarrior except God's power has not been seen at all (as he does not exist), and what is perceived as God's power is primarily confirmation bias.
[quote]Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms one's preexisting beliefs or hypotheses. It is a type of cognitive bias and a systematic error of inductive reasoning.[/quote]

@TheWildEcho confirmation bias is not experience.

@BiblicalWarrior so 2 pointless Bible verses that mean absolutely nothing. The fools are those that believe in something without evidence of its being.

@PikachuTrainer your funny ,,and repeating the same crap over and over makes your opinion more valid ?
You have your opinion ,he has his faith ,
Agree to disagree and let him be ,,you have proved nothing either ,,
My faith is solid as a rock ,,,all the crap talking is not changing that ,,every time I see my child still going
all I can think is "Thank you God "
I'll spare you the story of my middle daughter being told she would never ever have kids ,,hang it up
Now she has two ,,my invisible friend seems to like that word impossible ,,,and when it just keeps happening
we are not searching for anything ,,,we expect
NOTHING you can say will ever change that .
What amazes me ,is how a 25 yr old thinks he is wiser then thousands of years of stories like mine ,,,and you in your wisdom can debunk it
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@rckt148 no, it is not an opinion but fact, confirmation bias will not change the fact that there is no God, it won't change the fact that his achievements are down to him, not some mystical being whom no one can prove even exists, let alone explain why their Holy book is full of contradictions behind all the cherry picking.

And repeating the same crap is what you Theists do best, wouldn't want to take that achievement away from you guys and gals.

I think we both know that won't happen, you theists won't agree to disagree either, specifically BibleWarrior and GodSpeed63, so no I will not agree to disagree since your theist friends will not either. It is that simple.

Doctors can tell someone they can never walk unaided again, and yet that person has been able to do just that, walk unaided, that does not mean there is some higher power, that just means the Doctor got it wrong, and it does happen, whether it comes from telling someone they cannot have kids to those told they'll never walk again. And nothing you say will change the fact that it is not upto to your mythical sky fairy either.

Perhaps it is because this 25 year old has ailments that seem to disprove there being some "loving figure in the sky that no one can see", and that even the flaws in the Human body, such as the retina in the Human eye. A lot of the flaws in the Human body, from that, and the fact we have allergies (were the body attacks itself) are evidence towards Evolutionary traits, and not as you theists like to boast, Intelligent design. And we Humans are by far not the only example of flaws through evolutionary paths.

@PikachuTrainer you are wasting your time with me
I have my miracle ,,you can't BS it away
Smarter men then you can't explain it ,,and they are scientist ,,at least they are wise enough to admit
its impossible ,,but the tests and MRI's don't lie
Something they can't explain happened ,,,
My faith is personal ,,you are wasting your time

@rckt148 I have the time to waste.
You have your miracle sure, but the only one doing the BSing is you.
MRIs are not done by Scientists, they done by Doctors, Nurses and Technicians, primarily the latter, and even a professional in that line of work can get something wrong, Humans are not infallible.
Something happened that they can't explain because they got it wrong, it has nothing to do with some higher power. We have found a lot of things that we beleive, through our understanding to be impossible, yet we have been able to observe it.
Again I do not care about wasting time, I have time to waste.

@PikachuTrainer her bones have been examines by scientist and researchers ,,,1st trying to find a cause ,
2nd trying to figure out how she was cured
Don't attack my character young man ,then its not a matter of opinion ,then it goes to showing just how desperate you are to oppose something you say does not even exist
So who is being ignorant and arrogant
You just like to argue ,,I can do this all day too
but what would it gain either of us ?
Both only proving we would argue with a stone ?
You have fun ,,I have no desire to argue with a stone
I can block you so I am subject not to offend you again
But I didn't offend you ,,you just like a cause ,even if you come no closer to winning then I do
I am not trying to prove God is real ,,I see him in everything
Though you say you are not ,,you are trying to prove with your logic and man made terms you call science ,he is not
I say your science is man made ,though a great deal of is I benefit from
I can give you a huge list of scientists who say there is not a grand design is foolishness ,,and the more they know the more they see how little they know ,,they are still unlocking DNA ,,
But you can argue with a stone ,,it just wont be me
I am un shakable ,,,I know what I know ,and that all I need to know