Some believers are just rude! [Spirituality & Religion]

@Mamapolo2016 It's not rude to observe that some people are more compelled by reason and others by desire. If every person was equally compelled by both things it follows that there would only be one belief.

@PrivatePeeks I accept that's your perception. My perception is that being ruled by what is called reason blinds us to other things just as real, but not tangible.

If someone blinded at birth cannot see a cow, does that mean cows don't exist?

@Mamapolo2016 Reasoning doesn't necessarily require direct empiric observation:

Socrates is a man
All men are mortal
Socrates is mortal

@PrivatePeeks Did you ever see Socrates? Where do you get your information about him? How do you know?

@Mamapolo2016 2 + 2 = 4. Argue against this needing empiric evidence. Besides, I could throw the teapot argument at you. Just because anything can be imagined doesn't mean that everything imaginable is possibly true.

@PrivatePeeks I am not arguing faith against reason. I think they're compatible. I'm pretty alone in that. It is not my job to convince others.

I am merely pointing out that I may have had experiences that to me prove what I believe, that it would be irrational not to believe. I appreciate what I know will not convince non-believers.

The assumption that someone is irrational not to agree with what I do or don't believe includes the assumption that we both know exactly the same things.

@Mamapolo2016 I've never heard a rational argument from those of faith. All have been successfully debunked. I don't dispute the right to believe, anyway. And I won't equate the discovery of joy to knowledge only believers might possess.

@PrivatePeeks I know.