Why Is It So Hard? [Spirituality & Religion]

@SW-User [quote]If evil can originate from God then He’s not so perfect, is He?[/quote]

That's what I used to think but I found out from Jesus that I was wrong. God is perfect in all His ways, including creating evil. God didn't create evil to overcome man, He created evil for man to overcome it.

@GodSpeed63 This response shows that you’re incapable of having a proper discussion on the matter. Cling to your false hope, you scared old man.

I don’t think you understand the enormity of the word ‘evil’. There are kids who suffer through tons of pain only to die. Innocent people who get beaten, tortured, maimed and killed. What did they do to go through this? Also, not related to evil, but why do innocent children suffer from so many diseases and pain? What’s the logic for that? @GodSpeed63

@GodSpeed63 Well either god or man are doing a shitty job at it. Here let me set you on fire, over come this

@Native [quote]This response shows that you’re incapable of having a proper discussion on the matter. Cling to your false hope, you scared old man.
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How's that?

@GodSpeed63 It shows how closed your mind is. It shows you will justify any negative action of your god, which is quite sad.

That’s how religious people usually operate though @Native

@SW-User To be fair good and evil are like light and darkness. You don’t create darkness, it’s just always there until the light disperses it. You create light not darkness. It’s the same with good and evil. Evil is always there unless you have goodness to disperse it. Or at least that’s the way I look at it. Basically God didn’t create evil, just created good to disperse it.

That doesn’t really clear anything though.. why do all those people suffer unnecessarily? @Benjr134

@SW-User I only think that evil is allowed to preside so we can truly understand the good. At the end of the day if there’s such thing as god then we need to understand maybe we won’t understand it all in this life. If there isn’t then none of it is important.

I don’t believe the god of these religions exists though there might be something else out there. The term ‘god’ can be interpreted in a lot of ways but we can’t truly know and really it doesn’t matter. Just be a decent human being @Benjr134

@SW-User Literally best to think of the term as simply a higher power. Whether that’s the conventional way or a civilization that’s far more advanced than ours.

@GodSpeed63 [quote]That's what I used to think but I found out from Jesus that I was wrong.[/quote]
That's delusional yet you call me childish for mentioning The Flying Spaghetti Monster. Hypocrite!

@suzie1960 [quote]That's delusional yet you call me childish for mentioning The Flying Spaghetti Monster. Hypocrite![/quote]

Yes I am a hypocrite just like you are a hypocrite. Hypocrisy is part of our sinful nature which is why we need Jesus to keep us from being hypocrites. Again, I say to you, that it's not childish to believe in the one true God, Yahweh, who lives forever because it's the truth. It is childish to try to make Him equal with created gods or fabled characters like your monster because it wouldn't be the truth. "For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God." (1 Corinthians 1:18)

You’d be defending Islam if you were born in a Muslim country or Judaism if you were born in Israel.. it’s just what you were raised to believe and have failed to think for [b]yourself [/b].. geography is the determining factor of your faith. Nothing else. Good day @GodSpeed63

@SW-User Basically my train of thought is if you’re doing good, then I don’t care what you believe. 😂

True but religions make people do bad stuff @Benjr134

@SW-User Oh I agree. That’s why I mentioned if you’re actually doing good and not appearing to do good.

@GodSpeed63 [quote] Hypocrisy is part of our sinful nature which is why we need Jesus to keep us from being hypocrites. [/quote]
You're meant to "have Jesus" (whatever that's supposed to mean) so he isn't doing a very good job.

[quote]Again, I say to you, that it's not childish to believe in the one true God, Yahweh, who lives forever because it's the truth. It is childish to try to make Him equal with created gods or fabled characters like your monster because it wouldn't be the truth. [/quote]
Complete BS. There is no objective difference between your made up "god jehovah/yahweh" thing and any other mythical or supernatural being. Face the truth for once, despite all your false claims, you have never, not once, presented any real, independently verifiable, evidence of your god.

@suzie1960 [quote]You're meant to "have Jesus" (whatever that's supposed to mean) so he isn't doing a very good job.[/quote]

One more piece of evidence that supports what I said was true, you were never a true Christian as you have claimed. Having Jesus in my heart doesn't make me perfect, just forgiven, and set free so that I could be the man that God created me to be from the very beginning.

@GodSpeed63 You’re so full of logical fallacies it hurts.

@Native By whose standards?

@GodSpeed63 [quote]just forgiven, and set free so that I could be the man that God created me to be from the very beginning.[/quote]

So your "god jehovah/yahweh" thing actually wanted you to be a lying hypocrite? That's not the sort of god decent people would want to worship.

@suzie1960 [quote]So your "god Jehovah/Yahweh" thing actually wanted you to be a lying hypocrite?[/quote]

That's a dumb question. What do you think?

@GodSpeed63 I think it's an accurate observation that fits the available evidence.

You claim your "god jehovah/yahweh" thing set you free so that you could be the man it created you to be. You admit to being a hypocrite. You also repeatedly lie by falsely claiming you have presented evidence to support your claims. The logical conclusion is that (if it existed) your "god jehovah/yahweh" thing set you free to be that lying hypocrite that it wanted you to be.