Science Still Points To God [Spirituality & Religion]

@LadyGrace I think you'll find that is inaccurate, espiecally when you look at one the Egyption Empire and two the original hebrew text of the Bible when it comes to point 1. The Egyptians figured out the Earth was round, but according to old Hebrew texts of the Torah/Bible, the Earth was a Circle (the translation), or a flat disk, on an Earth with Foundations (which also takes the free floating Earth into question which even in reality we aren't free floating, due to the influence of Sol's Gravity).

The rest of that is also questionable but I have no time today for writing essays.

@LadyGrace Here's a site that lists all of the places where the Quran supposedly describes modern scientific discoveries that the Bible got wrong.

http://www.miracles-of-quran.com/index.html

The explanation for this, like the explanation for your claimed "Bible facts," is simply interpretation of ambiguous statements in a way that supports your argument. It's no different from people who claim that Nostradamus predicted World War Two. Find something in the Bible that tells me what stock I should buy to make a million dollars by next week, and I'll be convinced.

Yes....that’s what one gets when they put their confidence in man. Islam says that Allah is the only true God, and that anyone who says Christ is the Son of God will be condemned (Qur'an, 5:72, 9:30).

The testimony of the Scriptures is that the purpose of prophecy is to let us know that God exists and that He has a plan for this world. By the foretelling of persons, places, and events hundreds of years before their occurrence, the Bible demonstrates a knowledge of the future that is too specific to be labeled a good guess.

There are, in fact, literally hundreds of prophecies which predict future events. The idea that the fulfillment of the predictions is a result of coincidence or chance is absurd, in light of the evidence. God has given sufficient evidence of His existence and of the divine inspiration of the Scriptures by means of fulfilled prophecy.

Man could debate this until the earth is no more, but if one does not want to believe, no amount of proof or evidence will be sufficient. The same reason a thief cannot find a cop.

@LeopoldBloom

@LadyGrace Amen to that!!

@PikachuTrainer Wrong, the Word of God clearly state that the earth is round and not flat as science had it at one time.

@GodSpeed63 nope, one your word of God isn't even a thing, two, the Hebrew texts of the Torah and Bible said the Earth was flat. It also said it had foundations, so it very much did say the Earth was flat.

Show me what verse in the Bible says the world is flat. The book of Isaiah says its round. A [b]sphere[/b] is round (i.e. sphere...
noun
1.
a round solid figure, or its surface, with every point on its surface equidistant from its center.

@PikachuTrainer

Well you must be a lot smarter than God, cause He is the One who made the heavens and earth, and He says in His Word the earth is a sphere, yet you contradict Him. @PikachuTrainer

@LadyGrace the Quran also says that than Atheist will never be able to believe in God because that is God's will, yet look at the few Atheists that have become part of religions such as Islam, tells you something doesn't it? Like the entire book is a load of bollocks.

And yet all of these prophecies that are in the Bible were written into the Bible AFTER they happened, the Prophecies were never foretold by the Bible nor by God, and there is no evidence to prove if some of the Prophecies even happened.

No there are not, yes I know you'll just bring up the Apocalypse and the return of Jesus, but the thing about those Prophecies, is that they were meant for the end of Jesus's generation, they never happened and they never will happen, and certainly disproves "God's" word on the matter.

Same can be said about a Theist, you give them evidence that there is no God and they'll turn a blind eye, point being is there is no Evidence at all to either prove or disprove a deity, nothing at all.

“It is he who sits above the circle of the earth.” - The Hebrew word of Circle, which since this is a translation of, is khûg, which means a literal circle, it does not mean a Sphere, and not even hinted at that either. Of course this has also been translated into Vault as in the Vault of Heaven, but that does not fit into the original meaning of the Torah/Bible or Isaiah 40-22. Only in Modern Hebrew does khûg mean sphere.

@LadyGrace nope, he said the Earth was a circle, like in my post above. Though I also assume you still think Mary was a Virgin because of an error in Translation and think Jesus was born on December 25th when he was actually born 6 months prior.

@LadyGrace Isn't that always case though; man supposedly knows better than God? That's how we got into this mess in the first place.

@GodSpeed63 we got into this mess in the first place because of man's belief in such primitive nonsense and how willing a lot of them are to kill others in the name of that fictional deity they believe in at the time. Take Islam for instance and the multiple extremist groups that exist that wants to kill you for a. not being Islamic or b. not following their version of the Quran.

Your arguments don’t hold water. That’s the confusion one gets when they adher to the Quran....man’s interpretation of their book and God, which is not the same as God’s infallible Word. God is not the author of confusion. The Quran says a lot of things that don’t match up with God’s Word, and that’s the mark of false teachers, when their teachings do not match up with God’s Word. He warns about that:

Religion and religious leaders and their philosophies, did not suffer and die on the cross for your sins...but Jesus did.

Matthew 7:15 - "Beware of false prophets who come disguised as harmless sheep but are really vicious wolves."

Colossians 2:8 - "See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Jesus Christ."

Further, the Bible was “God-breathed” (2 Timothy 3:16), and this essentially means God wrote it. God left nothing to chance. Especially the transcription of His holy Word. Its authors were chosen Holy men of God, who wrote from the direction of the Holy Spirit in them, as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit (2 Peter 1:21). That’s why this divinely woven text of nearly three quarters of a million words is perfect in harmony from start to finish, and contains no contradictions. How possibly could we have this amazing congruity if it wasn’t for God guiding the authors’ hands? We could not; it’s that simple. A righteous God would never inspire error. A just God would not call error-filled Scripture “holy and true.” A merciful God would not state that His Word is perfect, if it were not, and only an omniscient God, could write it so that it is as relevant today as it was thousands of years ago.

The Bible is literally “God-breathed”. (2 Timothy 3:16) The Greek word, “[c=#BF0000][b]theopneustos[/b][/c]”, means “God-breathed”, inspired by God. This is the only use of this word in the Bible to describe its inspiration of God.





@PikachuTrainer

No doubt! 👍 @GodSpeed63

@LadyGrace and here we are, at exactly the rhetoric most of us expect. No one can agree on what is the "one true Religion", or "who is the one true God" or "Gods". You all talk about which ones are false but you can never agree on that one particular issue. Yes both the Quran and Torah/Bible say things that contradict each other (no surprise there though since they all contradict themselves at the same time), but even then none of the sects of either of the followers of those books can even agree on which version is correct, it is the problem that has affected you guys for centuries, and Early Christianity and modern Islam are prime examples of this. The war in Northern Ireland, which is pretty recent, is also a good example of this.

Oh so the Bible was "God-Breathed", well my copy of Star Wars was breathed allover by Luke Skywalker so it MUST be true. I mean at least Mark Hamill exists.

@LadyGrace yep, God is SO intelligent he made all religions not agree on which version of himself they should believe in and kill those in his name. Yeah definitely sounds like a very intelligent guy, not.

Oh and since all this is as God planned it, and since Hitler considered himself a Christian, does that mean the slaughter of over 14'000'000 people was planned by God?

Of course they disagree. God warned about false teachers and what they look like. There’s no mystery there. Even Jesus was against “religious” hypocrites and warned His followers about them, as [b]well as people today[/b], so they’ll stay away from them. These are those who pretend to follow Jesus, but their heart is far from Him.

Everyone cries there are so many contradictions in the Bible. That’s because they’ve not studied it or have not taken into consideration the full context, history, whom it was written to and why...no wonder they’re confused. A perfect God contradicted Himself in His own book? 🤔

Which version what? Speaks the truth about God? That’s easy. That would be the author’s version....God Himself’s version. He does not lie against Himself. He cannot err. I think what we have here is someone who does not believe in God in the first place because you keep questioning Him and His Word, so that means you don’t believe in him or what he says. You obviously don’t believe in God’s Word, so why bother?

There’s nothing more to contribute to this discussion, so we will just agree to disagree. Thank you.


@PikachuTrainer

@LadyGrace and yet both God and Jesus were some of the biggest hypocrites in the Bible, God said to love all man and yet got a bit touchy when people took it literally, or you know how the fact that both of them were racist, or is that not in your version of the "bible"?

Yes, there are, and some that are even on the same page. One of the best examples of a good Contradiction is here:
EX 9:3-6 God destroys all the cattle (including horses) belonging to the Egyptians.
EX 9:9-11 The people and the cattle are afflicted with boils.
EX 12:12, 29 All the first-born of the cattle of the Egyptians are destroyed.
EX 14:9 After having all their cattle destroyed, then afflicted with boils, and then their first-born cattle destroyed, the Egyptians pursue Moses on horseback.
I'm sure a perfect God wouldn't have made such a glaring error. Oh and I have done a lot of research on the Bible, I used to believe in it, it used to give me comfort at night when I was too scared to sleep. All of that was just superstitious nonsense.

So which bible is the supposed Word of God then? There are 100s to choose from in the English language after all.

Oh but there are tons that can be contributed to this discussion.

You’re dead wrong there. You may have read it, but you obviously don’t know your Bible, Captain Pampers. You’ll have to answer to God for calling Him a hypocrite and racist. It appears your suitcase doesn’t have a handle, from the way you mock God. You’re just babbling on about someone you don’t know and have admitted you don’t want to know.

.@PikachuTrainer

@LadyGrace pretty good !