Who is more likely to go to hell? [Spirituality & Religion]

@Emosaur the devil loves God too.

@Emosaur [quote]So heaven and hell only exist for those who believe in them[/quote]

No. They exist regardless of whether you believe they do or not.

@Emosaur Until you die, you're not going to know for sure since you don't believe God at His Word. Where's your evidence that they don't exist? Where's your proof?

@Emosaur [quote]How come you supposedly know for sure, but I don't when you literally just admitted that you can't know?[/quote]

I believe in God's Word to be truth and you don't. This is how I know.

[quote]And I've tried to explain it to you before, but you're so brainwashed by your religion that you won't believe anything that contradicts it in any way, so it's pointless.[/quote]

As I've tried to explain to you time and again, but your brain is so clogged up with gunk from your religion, that it's never been about religion or ever will be about religion. I've also told you, I'm not religious.

@Emosaur [quote]It amazes me how you guys manage to contradict yourselves in one sentence..[/quote]

Explain please, how I contradicted myself in one sentence.

[quote]I don't follow any religion. Please explain.[/quote]

Your own religion is what you put your faith and trust in.

[quote]How does believing in a specific god from one specific religion not make you religious?[/quote]

Religion didn't save me, Christ did. God didn't start all these man made religions, that was man's idea. Man's religion is a feeble attempt to reach God. Relationship is God's strong way of reaching man. Read James 1:27.

@Emosaur [quote]You either believe or know something. If you merely believe it you don't know it, and if you know it it's unnecessary to still say you merely believe it.[/quote]

I not only know and believe that God lives, I also know Him on a personal basis. So, how 's that contradictory?

[quote]That's true, but I still don't follow a religion.[/quote]

Religion is whatever you make it to be.

[quote]You say you're not religious, but then tell me to read a verse from the Bible, a core element of the Christian religion...
Not expecting you to think about it this time, I know how much you guys hate doing that.[/quote]

True, there have been religious people claiming to be Christian and have no idea of what being a Christian is all about. I'm a true believer in Christ which man made religion has nothing do with. What is there to think about? If anybody hates thinking, it you guys. We give you plenty to think about, but you've made it clear that your minds have already been made up, some of you anyway.

@Emosaur [quote]You're doing it again; despite it not being necessary you say you believe your god was real while also claiming to know it for sure, which is BS anyway since no can know for sure if there's something like a god.[/quote]

What are basing your conclusions? How do I know this isn't just your opinion and not actual truth? Do you live my life or do I?

[quote]Pretty sure religion is defined as being an ideology, a system of ideas and beliefs, so no, it's not whatever I make it to be.[/quote]

Religion is not only affiliated to just denomination or cult, it can be anything that takes the place of the one true God, Jehovah, in your heart.

[quote]"thinking more about God than believers"?[/quote]

That must be exhausting to you being that we think about Him all the time.

[quote]But tell me more about us hating to think...[/quote]

You hate think for yourselves. Your so called, 'logic' is misdirected and doesn't give way for you to learn actual truth, you're so willing to give up what is obvious and go with the uncertain without question, shall I go on?

@Emosaur [quote]There is no clear, undeniable evidence for your, or any other god's existence, therefore no one can know. It's not my opinion, just how it is.[/quote]

Just how it is? That's it? It's not very convincing. You haven't shown me what you're basing your conclusions on. I know for sure that God lives, His Spirit lives within me just like He can with you, if you'd let Him.

[quote]Are you saying religions that don't worship the god you believe in aren't religions? And I thought you weren't religious so why do you bring up that topic again anyway?[/quote]

Just answer your question.

[quote]If you guys really did there wouldn't be any Christians left by now. You fail to see how many things about your perception of your god just don't add up and if you actually thought about it you would no longer believe he's real.[/quote]

Wrong again, my friend. The more we think about Him, the more love Him for who He is.


[quote]I should've known... your mind is completely disconnected from reality since you'd rather live in your little fantasy world where your god and your Jesus are real lol.[/quote]

Again, what are you basing your conclusions on? How do you know this isn't your personal opinion and not actual truth?

@Emosaur [quote]Considering he's said to be omnipotent it should be no problem for him to just let his spirit enter me whether I want it or not. [/quote]

Stop right there. That's not how He works. God is Love and love doesn't force it's will on anyone. So, God does not force His will on anyone who will not receive Him.

[quote]Another very conflicting thing about him are the two claims that he, first of all, has a plan for everyone, and second of all, gave us free will:[/quote]

Do you actually think our free will is going to stop Him from carrying out His plans for us? Don't you realize, His plans for us are for good and for not evil?

[quote]First of all, you can't tell me a being that is all-powerful as well as all-loving would let so many bad things happen in the world: wars, poverty, famine, natural disasters... the list goes on.[/quote]

Again, do you want God to become a dictator? All those, 'bad things' man brought upon himself at the fall of mankind. When mankind fell, so did everything else, just because man wanted to be his own god. Yet, you want to blame these 'bad things' on the one true God whom you refuse to believe in.

Just to let you know again, this fallen world will not last much longer. For your sake and others like you, God is holding back His wrath on this world until you are saved from it. His wrath, that is. He's going to make a new earth that will last forever without all the 'bad things' dominating it. Yes, there will be no more death either. Clear?

@Emosaur [quote]But if he's love, why is there so much hate in this world?
And he doesn't force us? Hmm... so expecting us to love him back or else sending us to hell to burn for eternity isn't forcing?[/quote]

You don't listen very well, do you. I've told you God's desire that no be lost but be saved through Jesus by His Holy Spirit. Hell was never meant for man to be cast into, it was meant for the devil and his angels.

[quote]Why doesn't he just do that? Smh[/quote] You don't read very well, do you. I told you it's for your sake and others like you that God is holding back to give you time to come to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ. God is handing you that free gift. Either you take it or you don't, but God's not going to force you to take it.

It's like a man drowning in the sea and another man throws him a life preserver. It's the drowning man's choice to grab onto that life preserver and be brought aboard ship to be saved. If he doesn't grab it and drowns, who's fault will it be then, the man that drowned or the man that threw him the life preserver?

[quote]Hmm, not entirely. How do you know all that? What are your sources?[/quote]

God's Holy Spirit.

@Emosaur [quote]If it was never meant for man as you say, then why are people sent to hell anyway?[/quote]

That's their hearts desire being that they want nothing to do with God. Therefore they leave God no choice but to send them there. It would interfere with their free will, if He forced them into paradise.

[quote]You know what? I'd gladly take that free gift if only your god bothered to speak to me personally for once instead of having people like you speak on his supposed behalf.[/quote]

He has spoken to you personally, you're just hard of hearing like I used to be and still am at times.

[quote]Very flawed analogy. A life preserver is an object visible with the naked eye, your god is not.[/quote]

You missed the point, as usual. It's not the life preserver that is seen, it's the man who threw it that is unseen.

[quote]Not gonna believe anything you've said until you've shown me that "Holy Spirit" then.[/quote]

I've already told you how you can receive God's Holy Spirit, you just refuse to take that risk. Tell me, what have you got to lose?

@Emosaur [quote]And again, it's really unfair of him not to leave any obvious proofs for his existence or not to simply say "Hi" for once, but still expecting everyone to believe in him.[/quote]

Really? Have you ever seen the cabin that Daniel Boone built? If you have, how do you know it was him that built it? Did you actually see him built it?

It's the same with God, Jehovah. We don't see God but we see the works that He did.

[quote]Who tf are you to tell me how good my hearing is? Lol.[/quote]

One who's been there and still there at times.

[quote]Well, then I guess I haven't seen that "life preserver" yet.[/quote]

I hope you see it soon before you drown. I'd love to meet you in heaven.

[quote]Why I should believe some random guy on the internet who is unable to provide any clear evidence for some invisible sky fairy to exist.[/quote]

Why should I believe some random guy who keeps claiming there is no God and fails to produce any evidence that what he says is actual true?