Is it justice that someone burn forever or be annihilated or be cut off from god because [Spirituality & Religion]

@Celine Sorry but I've never ever known @MartinTheFirst To do any of those things. Why do you take offense at others beliefs so much?

@Celine Yes it does seem morally just to me.

You will always suffer consequences for your actions, just because the murderer would be forgiven it does not mean that they didn't suffer a punishment. They will, and God has promised that they will. However, after that punishment and after they have regretted, they are no longer the same person they once were. They got their sins washed away. This is only possible because Jesus died for our sins, otherwise we would all be doomed to Gehenna.

Celine, none of us are "good", we're all sinners.

@Celine That is not how it works. The importance is that you can only be forgiven if you hold faith.

@Celine It's not very confusing. You take offense and feel the need to try to change others beliefs. I just said he never did anything to be judged because of his beliefs.

@Celine Yes faith always comes first. If you turn your back to him he will do the same to you. And I ensure you, if you genuinely care about finding God, then there is enough evidence to do so.

@Celine How much porn do you watch Celine? How many times have you lied in your life? did you ever steal from your parents? Did you ever have sex without being married? How many sins do you do every day?

Think about it for a while and try saying that you live a good life again.
You have simply conformed your morals to a sinful world and therefore your morals are extremely faulty.

@Celine No what I am trying to tell you is that unless you hold faith you can not be saved, and none of us are leading good lives. But apparently your slow brain can't pick that up.

@Celine Of course, if you don't hold faith in your savior then it's not just that you would be saved.

If you do hold faith in your savior then it is just that you would be saved.

@Celine Let me put that in a bit less biased manner. A child who once were so bad that they raped a girl, got put in prison and served their sentence, when they came out they regretted their life decisions whole-heartedly and begged me to forgive them for what they did because they felt so terrible about it, now promising to be better.

Or

A child who disowned me as their parent and moved away to never see me again.

Which one should I give my fortune to?

@Celine Biased again I see

Let me put that in a bit less biased manner. A child who once were so bad that they raped a girl, got put in prison and served their sentence, when they came out they regretted their life decisions whole-heartedly and begged me to forgive them for what they did because they felt so terrible about it, now promising to be better.

Or

A child who disowned me as their parent and moved away to never see me again.

Which one should I give my fortune to?

This is what it is, don't try to twist the truth. If you can not see what God has done for you, such as sacrificing his son for you, then you are not going to be saved, and that is just.

@Celine Once again stop twisting it. It's not only "done terrible things" and you know it, you just want so dearly to cling onto your skewered view.

They don't get tortured according to my belief. They simply do not get the reward.

@Celine Haha yes you are, you continue to reverse the story so that it favors you.

The story is this

[quote]A child who once were so bad that they raped a girl, got put in prison and served their sentence, when they came out they regretted their life decisions whole-heartedly and begged me to forgive them for what they did because they felt so terrible about it, now promising to be better.

and

A child who disowned me as their parent and moved away to never see me again.[/quote]

not the simplified and twisted

[quote]So one child has done terrible things. The other just doesn't like you.[/quote]

and you better accept it if you want to continue this discussion and actually get somewhere.