Aside from the faith-based belief that there exists a soul, is there any good reason to suppose that a soul does in fact exist? [Spirituality & Religion]

@Celine http://www.ministrysamples.org/excerpts/THE-FUNCTIONS-OF-THE-SPIRIT-THE-SOUL-AND-THE-BODY-2.HTML Go here and it'll get the function of the soul. Now can disagree with it if you wish, but that doesn't make it any less the truth?

@Celine The soul is the major part that keeps spirit and body together. It dwell in the very core of the brain. If the brain is destroyed, the soul will still be undamaged. What do you think enables you to think in the first place? What enables you to learn and store what you have learned? What enablers you to understand what is being said to you and for you to respond? What enables you to know right from wrong or truth from lie? Do you know?

@Celine That's right.

@Celine Thought patterns can be interrupted when the brain is damaged. This is a bad analogy but it's the only one I can think of. When part of the computer or your cell phone is damaged, it cannot function properly. Now we're not machines but the same rule applies to us. If one part of the body is damaged, we cannot function properly.

@Celine If the brain is totally destroyed, the person dies. If part of the brain is damaged, like in a stroke, there's evidence that the soul works in the rest of the brain in that the person can still think, possibly speak, see, hear, and touch. One side may not be as functional as the other side, but it still gives evidence that the soul is still there.

Yes, the soul makes the person who they are even though they are uniquely made. Yes, it is eternal even when the body dies, it lives on. I hope I've answered your questions.

@Celine Haven't you been paying attention? The evidence is in the thought patterns, in the core of the brain. Without the soul, the brain is dead. When part of the brain is damaged, it changes the course of the thought patterns like an earthquake or landslide changing the course of a river or stream. The soul is still there, it makes us who we are even if the brain is damaged in some way and the thought patterns are changed. The soul, like the river or the streams, keeps going even though its course has been changed. The soul survives because its eternal, the brain isn't eternal. The soul and the spirit are eternal, but the physical body, in this world, is not.

@Celine Yes, I have been paying attention. The soul is not something you put in a test tube or under a microscope. Since you think my explanations are just assertions then answer me this: Who decided the brain needed those neural pathways? How were they constructed in the brain? Who decided man need a brain in the first place? How was the brain constructed in man's head for man to use for thinking? Where did his thought patterns come from? How did he first recognize them as thought patterns? Where was their origin? Do you know? If you can answer these questions scientifically, then we can continue. Okay?

@Celine [quote]Ah! So what you're actually saying here is that the soul is not verifiable by science.[/quote]Don't put words in my mouth. That's not what I'm saying. The soul is verifiable by science and there is evidence for it as I have already pointed out to you but your willing to brush it off because it's not evidence that you're accustomed to.
You need to remember that belief follows truth, not the other way around. Don't get me wrong, I'm not here to get you to believe what I believe, God forbid. I'm here to bear witness to the truth, actual truth that is and not mine, with you. That's all I've been doing.
[quote]As for what was the origin? EASY answer. I don't know.[/quote] That's your scientific answer, 'I don't know.' it's real easy to just say that than to admit that you could be wrong. It's not the difference between science and faith. like it or not faith is a part of science. It's what helps scientists with their word in all areas of science. They use faith when they come to their own theories of their findings whether that theory is real or imaginary.
I asked you those questions because I wanted to show you a part of science that you and many of your colleagues fear to tread. That one angle, if you will, in science that says, "There must be an Intelligent Designer." You put your faith and trust in science and scientists, yet you fail, whether in ignorance or on purpose, to see the whole picture that science has to offer you. Thank you for your honesty. Have a great night.

@Celine [quote]To be clear, saying the soul let's us do this and that or the brain dies without the soul IS NOT EVIDENCE. It is you assertion. It is your hypothesis.[/quote] Yes it is evidence unless you can explain to me a a brain lives and dies without a soul. The soul is verifiable evidence that the brain lives and is science proven unless you can prove otherwise on how the brain lives.

[quote]I reject that premise on the grounds that it is demonstrably false.[/quote] Where'd you go school? Tell me, did you that 2+2=4 before you learned it or after you learned it? Which is it?
I'm not talking about demons or dummy gods, I'm talking about belief following truth. I'm asking you, Did you believe before you learned or after you've learned about any subject in school?

[quote]It's just that you have presented no good reason for me to think that i am.[/quote]On the contrary, I presented a lot of good reasons to help you think that you've been wrong but you're too stubborn to admit it. Remember, people can be stubborn about a lie as well as being stubborn about the truth. I choose to stubborn about the actual truth.

One of believes in true science and one of believes in pseudo science.
If you want to continue this, go ahead. Otherwise, we can continue on the other subjects. Go for it.

[quote]Someone could just as easily have said "if you can't prove the origins of brain activity then that is evidence that the brain runs on magic!"[/quote] Don't you see that you're doing the same thing that you're accusing me of doing? Your hypothesis says there's no soul without evidence to back it up. Mine says there is a soul and have given evidence to back it up. My point here is that you're faced with the fact that there is an Intelligent Designer who is the Author of science.

It seems you don't believe in miracles, therefore you must believe that everything that can't be explained by science must be magic, in which, you highly doubt. The problem with that is that you don't understand miracles. Celine, your own life is a miracle, everything about you is a miracle. It's no magic that you're alive and you're brain working as it should work. Magic can't do 1/10th of the wonders that miracles can do and have done.

[quote]You're calling me stubborn, but what you're doing here is the quintessential ploy of the frustrated believer: "If you can't explain x then that proves I'm right!"[/quote]You forget, I also called myself stubborn. What I'm doing here, Celine, is distinguishing truth from lie, not who's right and who's wrong. We have the freedom to choose to believe what we wish, but we're also responsible to believe in the truth rather than the lie. We have the freedom to choose to speak what we wish, but we're also responsible to speak what is true. We have the freedom to choose to live our lives as we please, but we're to live them responsibly. Freedom and responsibility go hand in hand, you can't have one without the other lest your life goes down the tubes.

The whole duck routine is not what this is all about, this is an opportunity for you think for yourself for a change without science books, that have misinformation in them, and scientists, who don't know their butts from their elbows, telling you how you ought to think. No, I'm not here to tell you what you ought think either. You correct me if I'm wrong but you need to have something substantial to show for it. You sit on that fence any longer and those pointy fence posts are going to start to dig into your butt.

There's more to science than meets the eye, that's what you need to learn.

Well, you have great day. It's always a pleasure talking with you.

@Celine Celine, I gave you all the evidence you need to know in order for you to know that the soul exists. Not accepting it as evidence makes it no less that it is evidence. True, there is no scientific way to prove that the soul exists even though the evidence that it does exist is there. What it boils down to is this, either the exists or it doesn't, which is the truth? The truth lies either on one side of the fence or the other side of the fence. How do you know?

[quote]Give me your very best evidence that a soul exists.[/quote] You want the truth of how I know the soul exists? You really want to know?

Get back to me on that.

@Celine Well you asked. Receive Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior into your heart and life. His Holy Spirit of Truth will dwell in you. You're talking to a man who did just that over thirty years ago and He's still working in me. You may not call it science, but that wouldn't be the truth.