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Should America take the role of "World Police"?

Poll - Total Votes: 21

Yes, the world needs policing.

No, the world should take care of itself.

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Something I can't understand:
I don't understand why people in the US have this romantic notion about serving in the military.
To the rest of the world the military incursions into foreign lands seem more like acts of aggression rather than peace keeping missions, when have they EVER promoted peace?
How many stories do you hear of returned service-people coming home to a broken life? Quite a few. How many resources are afforded by the US to rehabilitate these people? Probably quite a few but nowhere near enough. You see and hear of homeless veterans that have nothing and are really living rough.
I wouldn't want to serve in the military and take the chance that I would come back a broken man and get insufficient backing from the government that put me in that position to start with.
Admittedly, in the media you hear the extreme cases and think them the norm, which they probably aren't, but why take that chance?
I think my biggest grievance with the US in these matters is that it is still trying to act as the "World Police" when I think that role has been outmoded. There is no real role for the world police.
We now have Hillary saying she will use Nuclear force if Israel is invaded, girl, get a grip. Personally, I don't see that the US has the authority or the responsibility to do such a thing. Nuclear bombs should be the very last thing threatened rather than one of the first, you are out of your tree Hillary.
But it's not just Hillary, she is merely playing to the public forum. That's sad, to think that the US public could support nuclear bombs being used on anyone is a sad indictment of public opinion in the US.
Rant over

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MasterLee · 56-60, M

The world complains about it but they beg us to.

beckyromero · 36-40, F

@naughtylass

The Nazis were among the most diligent record-keeping war-criminals of all-time.

It was all that record-keeping that got so many of them a date with the hangman.

beckyromero · 36-40, F

@Doomsdaysmores
"I served in that same military. I don't necessarily agree with everything, but I also don't think we need to be spending the amount of money and lives we spend throughout the world for countries to hate us."

Completely agree. Same with foreign aid to those countries.

We should be spending it on better equipping our military forces, honoring the commitments we made to our veterans and assisting our own citizens in need.

SW-User

Iran hates the US because the US mess a lot with the middle east, which is justified, not because the US is powerful

beckyromero · 36-40, F

@naughtylass
"Hitler... knew he was bad which is why he tried so hard to hide his atrocities."

Tried to hide? Nazi Germany didn't try to hide their atrocities.

After the war it was German citizens who tried to say they didn't know about them, as if it would somehow absolve their country of the shame (and consequences) of what they collectively did.

Doomsdaysmores · 41-45, M

I served in that same military. I don't necessarily agree with everything, but I also don't think we need to be spending the amount of money and lives we spend throughout the world for countries to hate us.

MasterLee · 56-60, M

I was in the military you are denegrating and no proof is something you would never accept in any form so what would be the point.

MarkCaesar · 56-60, M

MasterLee, I think countries ask for assistance sometimes but not military intrusion into their lands. I wonder if they are still looking for the Weapons of Mass Destruction?
CarlMarcus, for sure, military incursion does nothing to bring peace.
voyelle, I think the soldiers are heroes but they are doing things they should never be directed to do and suffering because of it.

katielass · F

Yes, DaveLiam, we have had terrible wars since WWII but we have not fought one to WIN since WWII. And if we are not going to fight to WIN we may as well not bother because the lives lost are wasted for nothing in my opinion. And frankly, it may just make things worse.

Doomsdaysmores · 41-45, M

Iran for one, north Korea for two...

MasterLee · 56-60, M

The us tried isolationism in the early 1900s. We were dragged into wwi. We returned to isolationism in the late 1930's and we were dragged into wwii. So let's skip the isolationism and avoid wwiii.

katielass · F

Well, there are bad guys and there are BAD guys. Take Putin, encroaching on other countries, that's bad but it isn't like he's slaughtering people. So, he thinks he's good because he has justified what he does in his own mind by telling himself they are better off under his control. Compare him with, say Hitler, who was a freaking nutcase, but that's beside the point. He knew he was bad which is why he tried so hard to hide his atrocities. He may have truly believed Jews were inferior and therefore didn't deserve to live but he still knew what he was doing was wrong/bad. There wasn't, isn't and never will be any justification in any sane person's mind for what he did.

beckyromero · 36-40, F

@MasterLee
"Countries hate us because we are prosperous. They hate us because we are strong. No sense in worrying if they hate us. We just need them to respect us."

I'd much rather have such countries FEAR us.

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RenaissanceMan

I am a Vietnam era Vet.
Pararescue 31st Squadron 18th Wing, U.S. Air Force, Okinawa, Japan.
My only sibling my sister was killed May 7th 2005, in an ambush outside Kandahar, Afghanistan. U.S. Army.
I can only say that after all the dust has settled on numerous wars, there are no enemies in the cemetaries they create. And, we as soldiers doing our duty because of a real love of country did what we were told to do. I realize now years later that we all were lied too. The Imperialistic attitude of the U.S. and Britain in particular are beginning to reap what they have sown.

katielass · F

I don't understand where one is born has to do with the civilized world not banding together and fighting the bad guys and being determined to win. Of course people on all sides are killed and if they are killed and something is accomplished their death is easier to take. I didn't say easy, just easier. They would not have died in vain, as they have been since the early 50's because since the Korean War we and other major nations, have not been serious about winning wars we engage in. that's my whole point, if you aren't determined to win why bother at all.

nolongerhere · 100+, M

There probably isn't enough aid for military vets, but there are private charity companies like wounded warrior project that aim to help vets.

More relevant to your point, the US cannot afford to police the world, look at our national debt started by Bush and increased 10 fold under obumfuck. We're not really doing anything in our attempt to police the world anyway other than ensuring war profiteering companies continue to make a profit for military weapons and gear.

DaveLiam788 · 46-50, M

The world is composed of people. People need to take care ourselves. Doesn't matter if you're from US or Kazakhstan

katielass · F

And btw, DaveLiam, you don't get justice if you don't win.

DaveLiam788 · 46-50, M

Yeah I agree Doomsday. Rather I think the installations should be left for the host country to employ for their own purpose. US has bigger problems to very about. Strategically however, its smart to have a base within foreign soil. I doubt US will give it up.

The worlds heading towards a very bad trajectory.

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Doomsdaysmores · 41-45, M

Let's see.. what is he bringing? Bigger government, more government control over my daily life, all of which are against the intentions of the framers of the Constitution, zero work ethic, more national debt to be put on the backs of my children... again... I'm good.

MasterLee · 56-60, M

I was being polite. Fear is respect

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Doomsdaysmores · 41-45, M

I have no interest in providing free healthcare or free food for lazy fuckers in my country either though. This is the land of opportunity, supposedly, but nobody wants to take the opportunity to improve their lives anymore.

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Doomsdaysmores · 41-45, M

Simply put, the US Military should only be used in defense of US territories. That appears to be what the world wants anyway, and there's a growing number of US Citizens who feel the same way.

Doomsdaysmores · 41-45, M

I rather enjoy being able to make my own choices rather than the Federal government making them for me. I will fight communism and socialism any time it shows its ugly head in my country.

MasterLee · 56-60, M

The main issue with president is they have to be able to persuade. Our current resident doesn't have that skill and neither will trump but that's what we will have.

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Doomsdaysmores · 41-45, M

It's not so much countries as it is religious sects in the middle East... Cuba loves us because we're the easy target to blame for their failed economy.

SW-User

Doomsdaysmores this kind of indifference is the one that leads the US government to send their soldiers over seas to ruin a bunch of foreigner's lives

MasterLee · 56-60, M

Countries hate us because we are prosperous. They hate us because we are strong. No sense in worrying if they hate us. We just need them to respect us.

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MasterLee · 56-60, M

No you weren't asking at all. You took an advesarial stance and attempted to belittle me for an answer. It does not promote good conversation.

katielass · F

DaveLiam, we're talking about the good guys winning, or I thought. No one in their right mind wants the bad guys to win. If the good guys win there can be justice. If the good guys don't win there is not likely going to be any justice, it might even be worse for the oppressed after we leave with our tails tucked under. I seem to recall about 2 million such oppressed peoples slaughtered after we left Vietnam without winning, or even trying to win. And we lost 58,000 American men for what, nothing.

Prometheus · 26-30, M

As do i. However since i will be fixing helicopter i doubt i will have a weapon that is ever fired.

MarkCaesar · 56-60, M

Prometheus, I wish you well in your service and I hope you never have to fire a weapon in hate.

Doomsdaysmores · 41-45, M

Well here's the thing:I came from no money. I took the opportunity to educate myself and worked my ass off and now I can say I'm lower middle class (I hate the class system terminology as it is communist in origin, but I'm using it for clarity so I don't have to explain myself later). I have healthcare that I pay for for myself and my children. Anyone has that opportunity. Most anymore don't want to take it. They want to wait until it's handed to them.

MasterLee · 56-60, M

Hates me personally? Lol the countries who hate us are long, and well known

SW-User

The only thing they're doing is feeding the hate from the lands thy go to

DaveLiam788 · 46-50, M

NaughtyLass everyone thinks they are the good guys.

MasterLee · 56-60, M

Trump is an idiot but he is slightly better than the alternatives

Doomsdaysmores · 41-45, M

No, CarlMarcus. It's about I don't want the US to be the world's police force. Neither does anyone else on this thread. It seems everyone wants the US to step back from the world stage. I agree. We should take care of our own country, and let the world take care of itself, especially since nobody wants to let the US Military do what it's good at.

MasterLee · 56-60, M

Kasich was the best candidate. We are on 9th best now.

Doomsdaysmores · 41-45, M

Some points I agree with in here for sure.

ghosts

indeed US needs to focus on its citizens first

MasterLee · 56-60, M

Goading me? You don't know? Live under a rock?

Doomsdaysmores · 41-45, M

Trump is a job creator. he is pretty much the definition of success to a lot of people. I'm guessing they think he's going to be the one to fix the economy. Personally, I'm skeptical, I just don't hate my country enough to do anything that could potentially result in HiLIARy getting elected.

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