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Northwest · M
Here's the actual data:
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2021-01/06-COVID-Shimabukuro.pdf
The screen shot you have in this post, comes from this site:
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/deaths-injuries-following-covid-vaccine-cdc/
And they actually use a single slide from the link I provided here. It is quoted incorrectly. The Defense web site is not only inaccurate, it's also misleading in a very dangerous way.
Look at page 36 specifically:
So much misinformation in this thread, this comment for instance:
@CestManan
You CANNOT cure Covid by taking the vaccine. The vaccine is not a remedy, it is a vaccine. If you're infected, it's too late to take the vaccine.
It is likely that people will suffer some minor symptoms following shot 1. This is normal, but these are minor symptoms typically. Read the report. They also last only for a few hours. Similar to what some people may experience following a Flu vaccine shot.
The second shot is going to produce a light fever and some aches. This lasts for a few hours only. It means that the vaccine is working.
Here's what might happen if someone gets the actual virus and gets infected:
- Hospitalization, leading to possible death.
- Severe illness, hallucinations.
- One or multiple organ failures.
- Possible amputations.
- Long term, a year so far, severe symptoms.
- Potential brain damage.
For the lucky few, it's 2-3 weeks of extreme misery, with hallucinations, and severe cough, pneumonia.
Obviously people should be making their decisions, but these decisions should be based on facts, not misinformation.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2021-01/06-COVID-Shimabukuro.pdf
The screen shot you have in this post, comes from this site:
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/deaths-injuries-following-covid-vaccine-cdc/
And they actually use a single slide from the link I provided here. It is quoted incorrectly. The Defense web site is not only inaccurate, it's also misleading in a very dangerous way.
Look at page 36 specifically:
▪ Among 1.3 million LTCF residents (2M x 65%) vaccinated over the 29-
day risk period (December 21-January 18)
– Expect 11,440 deaths among LTCF residents (= 286,000*4%)
following vaccination
▪ By comparison, VAERS received 129 reports of deaths following COVID19 vaccination in LTCF residents through January 18, 2021
▪ Mortality in LTCF residents is high and substantial numbers of deaths in
this population will occur following vaccination as temporally associated coincidental events
day risk period (December 21-January 18)
– Expect 11,440 deaths among LTCF residents (= 286,000*4%)
following vaccination
▪ By comparison, VAERS received 129 reports of deaths following COVID19 vaccination in LTCF residents through January 18, 2021
▪ Mortality in LTCF residents is high and substantial numbers of deaths in
this population will occur following vaccination as temporally associated coincidental events
So much misinformation in this thread, this comment for instance:
@CestManan
I would think people would be better off not taking it unless they had covid and were trying to cure it.
You CANNOT cure Covid by taking the vaccine. The vaccine is not a remedy, it is a vaccine. If you're infected, it's too late to take the vaccine.
It is likely that people will suffer some minor symptoms following shot 1. This is normal, but these are minor symptoms typically. Read the report. They also last only for a few hours. Similar to what some people may experience following a Flu vaccine shot.
The second shot is going to produce a light fever and some aches. This lasts for a few hours only. It means that the vaccine is working.
Here's what might happen if someone gets the actual virus and gets infected:
- Hospitalization, leading to possible death.
- Severe illness, hallucinations.
- One or multiple organ failures.
- Possible amputations.
- Long term, a year so far, severe symptoms.
- Potential brain damage.
For the lucky few, it's 2-3 weeks of extreme misery, with hallucinations, and severe cough, pneumonia.
Obviously people should be making their decisions, but these decisions should be based on facts, not misinformation.
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R5000 · 41-45, M
And over 3000 are dying per day in the US that are not vaccinated. Not good logic not to take it
SW-User
@Smart23 That's possible. It may well be that your doctor does not recommend you personally taking the vaccine if you have underlying conditions, and for that I'm sorry.
However, for the population at large, the chances of dying from an adverse reaction to the vaccine are 1 in several hundred thousand. Would you take those odds on a horse? No.
However, for the population at large, the chances of dying from an adverse reaction to the vaccine are 1 in several hundred thousand. Would you take those odds on a horse? No.
Smart23 · 51-55, F
@SW-User Wrong hundreds of thousands of people have had serious side effects from the COVID vaccines.
Remember allergic reactions and side effects are different.
Several family members and friends had serious side effects from the COVID vaccines.
Yes my doctor said that side effects are more common than people think.
Remember allergic reactions and side effects are different.
Several family members and friends had serious side effects from the COVID vaccines.
Yes my doctor said that side effects are more common than people think.
SW-User
@Smart23 Well, I could show you independently compiled statistics from my country (UK) showing that:
Just under 53 million people have received at least one vaccine dose.
There were just under 27,000 cases of either moderate or serious side effects.
And less than 300 people have died within 24 hours of taking the vaccine (although this number is likely to be an overestimation).
However, I get the feeling you are not one to believe statistics unless they support your particular beliefs, so we'll leave this conversation here :)
Just under 53 million people have received at least one vaccine dose.
There were just under 27,000 cases of either moderate or serious side effects.
And less than 300 people have died within 24 hours of taking the vaccine (although this number is likely to be an overestimation).
However, I get the feeling you are not one to believe statistics unless they support your particular beliefs, so we'll leave this conversation here :)
acpguy · C
Try looking up and see how many died from the Spanish flu, HIV, normal flu. The ding dong liberals have been claiming deaths that were from natural causes and if you study the age and health of those dying you would find that they were ready to die from old age, health related issues like diabetes and fat ass over eating obese lazy asses.
acpguy · C
Our neighbor died after the second dose of the vaccine and he was old and out of shape, he did not have Chinese flu but did have a bad case of fat ass. I doubt if the liberals will list his death from Chinese flu vaccine however.
JoeyFoxx · 56-60, M
This might also be why you’re a moron
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SirBenedictTheSecond · 22-25, M
Yes
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
However, we also know, from the trials and early experience with COVID-19 vaccine administration, that the vaccines have high rates of temporary and unpleasant—but not dangerous—side effects. The vaccines cause sore arms at high rates, and they can cause swelling, mild fevers, fatigue, and aches.
Which is the same as getting infected by covid.
Smart23 · 51-55, F
@MartinTheFirst I know several people that have had serious side effects from the COVID vaccines and they still have side effects from their second mRNAs COVID vaccines that they had over 5 months ago.